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    Posted: July 21 2009 at 16:02

Shadowfax is an American band formed in 1972 by flautist Chuck Greenberg. There is a lot to read on their wikipedia page, and if that's not enough, I will link more as soon as I get up in the morning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowfax_%28band%29

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2009 at 17:06
^ link busted - use this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowfax_(band)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2009 at 02:13
Fixed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2009 at 02:35
Fixed #2.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2009 at 02:41
a little redundant, but hey-ho. Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2009 at 02:45
Heh.
http://www.playlist.com/searchbeta/tracks#shadowfax
Tracks 1 and 3 are the only tracks I know are really Shadowfax, so you migth wanna check that out. Also, most of theire good stuff (Watercourse Way era) isn't on youtube and playlist and things.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2009 at 21:38
I've known this band since their first debut album in the late '70's. 

Not a good fit for crossover but excellent for symphonic.  (Strictly talking about Watercourse Way, somewhat Tongue.)

Their first album is one of those overlooked masterpieces of progressive music..  They went off the radar screen for a while but reappeared with an album on the Windham Hill label a short few years later.  They redid a few tracks from the original, quite well, I might add.  I've still got the LPs (vinyls for some if that's the term you know, they were called records back then). 

The album cover on the original was excellent, though the last time I tried to dig it up, it wasn't available on the internet.   This was their most hard hitting one I've heard so far.

Excellent mellow music on Watercourse Way and their Windham Way albums, occasionally in the earlier stuff but that was the focus of the latter.  But back to the music for the original, it's an obscure gem.  The later stuff much less so impressive, but excellent mellow music that doesn't fit perfectly into the mold of '80's new age music even though they re=did a few track from WW. 

Chuck Greenberg, I think died a while ago, and then the band was retired, so to speak.  I still haven't tried or found much of their later music.  I'll admit I haven't been looking too hard for it.  They seemed to be headed back in a more progressive direction with Dreams Of Children, but that was the point where I quit following them.  Still on my agenda to explore the rest.

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Watercourse Way was re-released by Windham Hill in CD and LP format without the original cover art, sadly WW was not released with the original art, but the the WH standard format art at the time.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 02:15
Greenberg died in 1990, RIP. I put them on Crossover as I thought it was sort of New-Age, and because they sort of followed the New-Age format like Oldfield, which is classed as Crossover, I put them in Crossover.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 02:26

Any New Age albums listed in the PA are only here because the band/artist also did 100% Prog albums. If Shadowfax only did New Age albums then the band will not be listed; if the first album is Progressive Rock then they have a chance of being added.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 02:28
New Age IS prog rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 02:31

This cover Brian?

 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 02:36
Originally posted by Blowin Free

New Age IS prog rock.
...nearly, but not on this site.
 
While New Age has simularities with Progressive Rock, it is a seperate genre of music and is generally simpler and less "dynamic" (for want of a better word) - put frankly - it doesn't "Rock". While I agree that some New Age artists were really Prog artists that were tagged as New Age for pure commercial reasons (eg Stephen Caudell) and some Prog artists produced New Age music (eg Rick Wakemen) most New Age artists set out to make New Age music.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 02:47

Watercourse Way is in the styling of Tubular Bells. Both are new age, both rock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 03:59
Originally posted by Blowin Free

New Age IS prog rock.
 
I hope not
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 04:01
Shadowfax has been firmly placed in my record colelction's jazz fusion section since the late 70's, and even the Indo jazz fusion sub-section. Beware if they are included you may find them in the jazz Rock Fusion section of PA.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 04:04
I wouldn't say Indo, but I agree, they can realyl get into the Jazz-fusion section.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 04:07
Originally posted by Blowin Free

I wouldn't say Indo, but I agree, they can really get into the Jazz-fusion section.
 
I won't say every track is Indo, but at times I feel Shadowfax is in a similar area to Oregon musically.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 04:09
Atleast not on Watercourse Way. I heard some Indo influences here and there but I didn't really think of it as an Indo album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 04:09
Originally posted by Dean

This cover Brian?

 

Ah, you found it.  Big smile

The first album has some elements that good new age music may have borrowed from.  If new age = boring crap, you will find nothing of the sort on their debut. 

Dick's absolutely right, the first one is a good fit for JRF and the ones that I am familiar with do have some similarities to Oregon.




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