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    Posted: August 16 2009 at 16:03

Having too much time on my hands today, I've made the list of "how many artists from each country" are on ProgArchives, using the Listings by Country (with links) list I made while ago.

So here are the results, and  let's start with the lowest ones.

First of all, a list of countries that are not even included on PA countries list, and hence, without artists:

Antigua and Barbuda
Congo (Democratic Republic)
Dominica
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Sao Tome and Principe
Seychelles
Solomon Islands
Somalia
Sri Lanka
Sudan
Suriname
Timor-Leste
Vanuatu

The next thing, countries without artists on ProgArchives. Unfortunately, they're making the biggest portion of countries world wide. I excluded hilarious entries of non-exisiting countries, which are without artists anyway, such are Antarctica and Siberia.

Afghanistan 0
Albania 0
Algeria 0
American Samoa 0
Angola 0
Anguilla 0
Aruba 0
Azerbaijan 0
Bahamas 0
Barbados 0
Belize 0
Benin 0
Bermuda 0
Bhutan 0
Botswana 0
Bouvet Island 0
Brunei 0
Burkina Faso 0
Burundi 0
Cambodia 0
Cameroon 0
Cape Verde 0
Cayman Islands 0
Central African Republic 0
Chad 0
Christmas Island 0
Cocos Islands 0
Comoros 0
Congo 0
Cook Islands 0
Cyprus 0
Djibouti 0
Dominican Republic 0
East Timor 0
Egypt 0
El Salvador 0
Equatorial Guinea 0
Eritrea 0
Ethiopia 0
Falkland Islands 0
Fiji Islands 0
French Guiana 0
French Polynesia 0
Gabon 0
Gambia 0
Gibraltar 0
Grenada 0
Guadeloupe 0
Guam 0
Guinea 0
Guinea-Bissau 0
Guyana 0
Haiti 0
Honduras 0
Iraq 0
Ivory Coast 0
Jamaica 0
Jordan 0
Kazakhstan 0
Kenya 0
Kiribati 0
Korea 0
Korea, North 0
Kuwait 0
Kyrgyzstan 0
Laos 0
Lesotho 0
Liberia 0
Libya 0
Liechtenstein 0
Lithuania 0
Madagascar 0
Malawi 0
Malaysia 0
Maldives 0
Mali 0
Marshall Islands 0
Martinique 0
Mauritania 0
Mauritius 0
Mayotte 0
Micronesia 0
Moldova 0
Montenegro 0
Montserrat 0
Morocco 0
Mozambique 0
Myanmar 0
Namibia 0
Nauru 0
Nepal 0
New Caledonia 0
Nicaragua 0
Niger 0
Nigeria 0
Niue 0
Norfolk Island 0
Oman 0
Palau 0
Papua New Guinea 0
Paraguay 0
Qatar 0
Reunion 0
Rwanda 0
Saint Helena 0
Samoa 0
San Marino 0
Saudi Arabia 0
Senegal 0
Sierra Leone 0
Singapore 0
Swaziland 0
Taiwan 0
Tajikistan 0
Tanzania 0
Thailand 0
Togo 0
Tokelau 0
Tonga 0
Trinidad and Tobago 0
Tuvalu 0
Uganda 0
United Arab Emirates 0
Vietnam 0
Yemen 0
Zambia 0
Zimbabwe 0

No entries for Moldova, Paraguay, Azerbaijan...I hope this will be changed soon. In fact, I know one Moldovan band is under evaluation right now.

Then, countries with ONE representative on PA.

Andorra 1
Bahrain 1
Bangladesh 1
Bolivia 1
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1
China 1
Faroe Islands 1
Georgia 1
Ghana 1
Guatemala 1
Lebanon 1
Macedonia 1
Malta 1
Monaco 1
Pakistan 1
Panama 1
Syria 1
Turkmenistan 1

Countries with TWO artists:

Armenia 2
Costa Rica 2
Cuba 2
India 2
Iran 2
Philippines 2
Tunisia 2

Countries with THREE artists:This one includes "Various", which is listing Concept Albums, Label Samplers and Tributes as separate entries.

Belarus 3
Colombia 3
Latvia 3
Luxembourg 3
Serbia 3
Slovenia 3
Uruguay 3
Uzbekistan 3
Various 3

Countries  with 4-10 artists:

Bulgaria 4
Ecuador 4
Ukraine 5
Puerto Rico 6
South Africa 6
Slovakia 7
Turkey 7
Croatia 8
Iceland 8
New Zealand 8

Countries with 11-20 artists:

Indonesia 11
Ireland 11
Peru 11
Romania 11
Estonia 12
Venezuela 13
Greece 16
Austria 17

Countries with 20-50 artists:

Portugal 20
Czech Republic 21
Israel 26
Denmark 33
Hungary 33
Mexico 39
Yugoslavia 45
Russia 45
Chile 48
Switzerland 48

Countries with 50-100 artists: Multi-National bands included.

Australia 55
Belgium 62
Multi-National 63
Poland 66
Argentina 68
Finland 80
Brazil 89
Norway 98
Spain 98

Prog giants: countries with 100+ artists.

Netherlands 117
Japan 124
Canada 146
Sweden 198
France 271
Germany 403
Italy 473
United Kingdom 634
United States 898




That's it. Surprised?

I'm aware the list is changing on a daily basis; in fact it may become obsolete as I'm writing this. But I think it's still a representative guide of countries distribution.

I hope it will receive some feedback; I also hope it will encourage additions from "inhabitated" countries.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2009 at 16:22
Another highly impressive statistic, Moris! Star

One thing I don't understand is what's the difference between countries not even mentioned on PA, and countries mentioned but with 0 artists. Why are those countries mentioned in the first place, if no artist/band from their country was every added to the site?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2009 at 16:25
They're countries withou country ID in PA. That means, if ever a band from such a country gets evaluated and cleared for addition, it can't be added under its own country...because the entry doesn't exist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2009 at 17:41
Interesting list, good work!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2009 at 17:57
How long did it take you to make that list?!?!

Anyway, those are some cool stats.

Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2009 at 23:41
48 from Switzerland? Weird.

Also, what's the deal with Yugoslavia? The former nation and its successor states are both in here, or is Yugoslavia for the bands which existed in its duration?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2009 at 00:41
Here is my attempt at a visual of the list compiled by clarke!



Unfortunately the source map was relatively low-res and many small countries (like Puerto Rico and Belgium) are close to invisible. Even so, I hope this is helpful in some way!

(Note: All the high-res maps I downloaded only allowed me to color in grayscale for some reason.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2009 at 00:55
Originally posted by Kestrel Kestrel wrote:

48 from Switzerland? Weird.

Also, what's the deal with Yugoslavia? The former nation and its successor states are both in here, or is Yugoslavia for the bands which existed in its duration?


Sort of..but not entirely. This issue has been brought out two or three times before.  I disagree with Yugoslavia entry (not strongly disagree, however),  I wasn't making an issue of it. As it appears, it lists bands that were formed /released a debut within the country's existence, but even here things are little hazy..and can get even hazier if some late 80's bands will be included. Also, there's short-lived "Serbia and Montenegro", but I haven't listed it here (although Progarchives' country_ID exists) because, as you've said, successor countries are here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2009 at 01:06
Originally posted by Kestrel Kestrel wrote:

Here is my attempt at a visual of the list compiled by clarke!



Unfortunately the source map was relatively low-res and many small countries (like Puerto Rico and Belgium) are close to invisible. Even so, I hope this is helpful in some way!

(Note: All the high-res maps I downloaded only allowed me to color in grayscale for some reason.)


This is AWESOME!! Clap How did you do it?

My only suggestion is to colour areas with various shades of a certain colour morphing to another one,  so it can be more intuitive...

..oh, and tiny little Croatia should be yellow, not brown.Smile I'm working on painting it blue in the near future:)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2009 at 01:28
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:


This is AWESOME!! Clap How did you do it?

My only suggestion is to colour areas with various shades of a certain colour morphing to another one,  so it can be more intuitive...

..oh, and tiny little Croatia should be yellow, not brown.Smile I'm working on painting it blue in the near future:)


I just downloaded a map from Google Image search and used the bucket option in MSPaint... pretty simple, haha.

I did think of your suggestion but I don't see the point with such a low-res image. I would definitely work on it if i could find a high-res map to color in because yeah, I totally agree that it isn't intuitive.

And sorry about Croatia. For one, I unfortunately don't have much knowledge of Eastern Europe and for two, I was not sure what to do about Yugoslavia and its related areas, so I just colored the whole area brown. Admittedly, Yugoslavia has 48 bands according to the list so the area shouldn't be brown at all, but dark blue! I will fix this soon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2009 at 10:26

Bouvet Island is not a country. It is a part of Norway and should be credited with 98 artists. 

But if you want to challenge me on this..........

Please also give Tasmania  a lick of blue paint. It is a part of Australia. Svalbard also deserve some blue paint as being a part of Norway. There is a lot of Norwegian bands with applications to get submitted to PA so you may have to change that to red later on. 

Beside of that; excellent work !!ClapClapClapClap



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2009 at 12:48
Alright, I updated it using clarke's suggestion of using colors to show intensity by using colors in the range of reds. Hopefully this makes it more intuitive. And thanks for the corrections, toroddfuglesteg! I also added blue to the bodies of inland water to make the geography a bit easier to discern.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2009 at 12:59
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:



First of all, a list of countries that are not even included on PA countries list, and hence, without artists:

Antigua and Barbuda
Congo (Democratic Republic)
Dominica
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Sao Tome and Principe
Seychelles
Solomon Islands
Somalia
Sri Lanka
Sudan
Suriname
Timor-Leste
Vanuatu

 
You forgot Pitcairn Island.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2009 at 13:10
Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:



First of all, a list of countries that are not even included on PA countries list, and hence, without artists:

Antigua and Barbuda
Congo (Democratic Republic)
Dominica
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Sao Tome and Principe
Seychelles
Solomon Islands
Somalia
Sri Lanka
Sudan
Suriname
Timor-Leste
Vanuatu

 
You forgot Pitcairn Island.
 
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Here is entire Pitcairn population:




You think some of them might form a prog rock band?Smile

But you're absolutely right, I forgot themEmbarrassed
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2009 at 13:18
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Bouvet Island is not a country. It is a part of Norway and should be credited with 98 artists. 

But if you want to challenge me on this..........

Please also give Tasmania  a lick of blue paint. It is a part of Australia. Svalbard also deserve some blue paint as being a part of Norway. There is a lot of Norwegian bands with applications to get submitted to PA so you may have to change that to red later on. 

Beside of that; excellent work !!ClapClapClapClap



I'm sorry. I think I have a decent knowledge of geography, but I don't known every independent country - or non-independent overseas territory. M@x made the entry, so I included it automatically in my list.


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Nothing to be sorry about clarke2001. I was just pedantic and very annoying. LOL

Keep up your good work !!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2009 at 05:54

The most Northern prog rock band: Thule from Norway

The most Western and Eastern prog rock band: Somewhere in London, close to the Greenwich meridan line.

The most Southern prog rock band: A band from Chile, I guess.

Now, that's what I call trivia !

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2009 at 00:34
I will bother you with one more list I just made: a list of  prog densityEvil Smile

It's based on a number of inhabitants of a certain country, and number of artists listed on ProgArchives. I am aware this is far from being perfect, and the figures are just a rough estimation. Also adding just one artists into a "less inhabitated" country ("less inhabitated" from prog point of view) could change the things drastically.

Let's say you have a country with 1 000 000 citizens and ten artist listed. Roughly, it means you will stumble upon  a prog artist after 100 000 people. It is ridiculous and not very reliable, I know. But I've made it for fun, and perhaps for some conclusions to be drawn.

If a prog band accidentally forms in a smallish country, you will get a very high ratio. Hence the, in my opinion, unrealistic high positions for Andorra and Monaco.

But -- some conclusions can be made. Needles to say, prog is more "dense" in developed countries than in Third World countries and so on. This list shows how much a country is "busy" or "lazy" in prog rock context.

For example, a Japan is a prog giant - everybody knows that. But it's interesting to see how it has been "overtook" by some smaller countries.

The final result -look at the top countries  - is giving some very interesting results...

Countries without prog artists on PA are excluded (their ratio will be infinite).

So here it goes. Smaller the number, bigger the prog density.

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China             1 332 470 000
India               583 915 000
Pakistan            167 208 500
Bangladesh          162 221 000
Philippines          46 111 330
Iran                 37 098 000
Ghana                23 837 000
Syria                21 906 000
Indonesia            20 905 909
Colombia             15 017 331
Guatemala            14 027 000
Turkey               10 216 714
Bolivia               9 863 000
Ukraine               9 228 740
Uzbekistan            9 162 667
South Africa          8 116 167
Cuba                  5 602 000
Tunisia               5 163 900
Turkmenistan          5 110 000
Georgia               4 382 100
Lebanon               4 224 000
Bosnia and Herzegovina3 767 000
Ecuador               3 507 293
Panama                3 454 000
Serbia                3 283 333
Belarus               3 223 967
Russia                3 152 555
Mexico                2 757 710
Peru                  2 648 365
Costa Rica            2 289 500
Venezuela             2 187 632
Brazil                2 154 191
Macedonia             2 048 620
Romania               1 954 420
Bulgaria              1 901 638
Armenia               1 615 050
WORLD IN TOTAL        1 506 333
Latvia                1 128 650
Uruguay               1 120 333
Japan                 1 028 871
Bahrain                 791 000
Slovakia                773 364
Greece                  703 580
Slovenia                681 529
Puerto Rico             663 667
Argentina               590 212
Poland                  577 283
Croatia                 554 382
New Zealand             540 013
Portugal                531 363
Yugoslavia              500 000
Czech Republic          498 454
Austria                 491 486
Spain                   468 668
Malta                   413 627
Ireland                 402 009
Australia               397 855
Chile                   353 167
United States           342 075   
Hungary                 303 976
Israel                  285 923
France                  233 910
Canada                  231 171
Germany                 203 588
Belgium                 173 460
Denmark                 167 256
Luxembourg              164 500
Switzerland             161 067
Netherlands             141 274
Italy                   126 993
Estonia                 111 701
United Kingdom           97 215
Andorra                  86 000
Finland                  66 779
Norway                   49 306
Faroe Islands            48 869
Sweden                   46 931
Iceland                  39 916
Monaco                   33 000










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Ah! The mighty Scandinavia!


If we imagine the prog density in China on a level of United Kingdom, China would have 13000 bands...

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Wow, that is incredibly interesting.  Thanks for another cool list!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2009 at 07:10
All hail Scandinavia!

We should add to the vikings' merits from the Jedi vs Knight vs. Samurai vs. Viking poll the fact that after one millenium they are the most busy making prog.
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