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Second Life Syndrome
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Hey, the new Dream Theater is already been rated 5 stars. Is there any way to find out if some schmuck is rating it that way just because, you know, Dream Theater is so totally awesome that all their albums should be 5 stars? I find it hard to believe anyone has heard it yet.
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Windhawk
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The case with t's Psychoanorexia is a peculiar little issue, just in case someone finds all of those reviews dubious. Thing is that in a German 'zine a reviewer wrote a negative review where the outcome could be read more as a personal attack on the artist than the music itself. Questioning the artists motivation and stuff like that. And when some readers commented negatively on that, the reviewer was less than humble about it. Which caused a massive and heated sh*tstorm of the kind Progarchives have never seen the likes of ever. I kind of suspect that one of the indirect results of that, besides more people buying the album to find out what the fuss was all about, was that some fans old and new alike also wanted to voice their support and opinions by writing a review here. In other words, there's nothing here instigated by the artist or promoter, but most likely a result of the aforementioned volcanic heat sh*tstorm that occurred in Germany. |
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Horseradish
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I'm sorry for bumping this thread, but I just wanted to say, that I agree with brobin's post. Even if the reviews weren't written by just a single person, they are distorting the list in a manner which I feel is against the spirit and high standards of PA. I realise discovering and handling such incidents must be tiresome for the moderating staff, but despite that, I hope this case won't drift away into obscurity. |
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ExittheLemming
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^Agreed. Shame really, as his one written review ain't bad until you get to this verbal clanger:
You should drop a few hits of acid a couple hours before listening to this. Such naughtiness aforethought cannot be condoned on the haven of good sense that is PA sirs, delete the rascal forthwith... |
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aapatsos
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^ sorry you have to go through that Dean...
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Dean
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Ah, bolocks. I fing hate ratings manipluators and I fing hate having to go through the database looking for them and I fing hate having to waste my time deleting their sht ratings and suspending their fing shtty little accounts. As you seem to be such an expert, perhaps you could give your expert opinion on these accounts and their ratings: algos, blacksmith77, giles.on, grey.l, hamelprog, ivan.prektovic, lunasol, marrakesh, nahoum, origin of symmetry, pimko, powell86, ragingbull, seaoflight, sonicS, telen76 and titus1984 ... that is probably an incomplete list but I got fing bored looking
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brobin
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sorry!.... then it is my fault ...
I did not imagine that a freinds of the band could do reviews , logically positive.... I did not realize this |
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aapatsos
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^^^ it actually looks pretty suspicious but it could be "friends" of the band, the promoter or whoever else... not sure if this can be considered abuse but the Admins could check IPs...
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brobin
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yes but almost all of them have only one review of the same cd.....
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twseel
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^All these members have many other ratings on their account.
It seems highly improbable to me that it's abuse.
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brobin
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hello! I wanted to ask the experts and members of this site: if this is a normal practice? only to me appear to reviews written by the same author? all for one cd, and wisely ratings adding more 'low to rivals top list of 2013? http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=981800 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=980698 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=974832 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=974402 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=969133 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=960121 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=957146 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=956558 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=954292 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=939580 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=938741 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=937194 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=921868 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=921868 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=919332 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=918573 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=918160 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=916413 |
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twseel
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Ok, that's true, but I think this will upset more people than when you don't do it.
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Argonaught
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Not to be facetious, but anything may upset a lot of people. Whatever you do, is going to upset someone. Even if you refrain from doing anything, it will upset someone. |
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twseel
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I like both ideas, but the second one more than the first one. The reason that people don't leave a review is quite often because they can't write one very well. Therefore, forcing to write a review may upset a lot of people.
For the second idea, it should only go when you have at least a certain number of ratings overall, because otherwise you couldn't do any of your first reviews with five stars.
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Argonaught
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[QUOTE=twseel]I posted this in the wrong thread before:
This is obvious abuse: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=19023 Too bad for that one last review, because that was actually a good and reasonable review. If someone cares enough to log on Progarchives and look up an album they dislike (love) so passionately, this person in theory should care enough to justify their opinion by writing a review. Just a thought. No review? Can leave 2-, 3- and 4-start ratings only. Want to leave * or *****? Cough up your 100 words, s'il te plait. . Also, if the software allows, it may be a good idea to limit one's one-star and five-star quota to 10% each of the overall number of the ratings they left. E.g. if someone filed 100 ratings altogether, they wouldn't be able to leave more than 10 one-star ones and no more than 10 five-star ones. |
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Guldbamsen
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Then he should just stick to that.
Even if the review is written by a band member, it can still be of value, it's when they then proceed to peddle it up through the charts that it all gets a little distasteful imo. |
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twseel
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^But as I said, the review for the 4-star album was very good, and it's the first rating for the album.
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Guldbamsen
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That first one is beyond ridiculous, it's almost funny.
Rating all albums from the eclectic quarters 1 star, and then not to cast too much suspicion rate one with a 4. A band he probably has some ties to one way or the other. Edited by Guldbamsen - June 02 2013 at 08:24 |
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twseel
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I posted this in the wrong thread before:
This is obvious abuse: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=19023 Too bad for that one last review, because that was actually a good and reasonable review. This one too: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=21348 is at least suspicious.
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Dean
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^ & ^^ Nothing significant in the IPs, nothing suspicious either. Just 4 people being d***heads.
Symphonicrockfran is proving himself to be 'unhealthily polarised' in the forum too. |
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