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King Crimson776
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Topic: Yes' Fragile or RelayerPosted: September 07 2009 at 15:01 |
Roundabout smokes God himself, that's just how good it is. :P But anyway, I'm glad I can agree with you on something other than ELP vs. Camel for once Micky.
For a while I forgot how great the material on Fragile is... maybe it has something to do with those interludes chopping it up (Mood for a Day is great though), I've always thought the album doesn't flow well. But take each of the main pieces and they're some Yes' best work by far, especially Roundabout and South Side of the Sky for me. |
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"It's music, and I like it" - Miles Davis on Sketches of Spain
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Moogtron III
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VIP Member Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Online Status: Offline Posts: 8623 |
Posted: September 07 2009 at 15:38 |
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Very difficult.
Fragile is a special album for me. One of my brothers already played it when I was a kid. It has so many shades, and it has already a certain 'strangeness' as well as beauty, loops as well as continuously changing movements, and a lot of musical visions molten together. Relayer is a great album too. I love Gates, I love To Be Over, and parts of Sound Chaser as well. A bit more Anderson and Howe's vision I suppose, which is great, but today I choose the abundance of visions of Fragile, even when the influences are a bit more fragmented, because the group compositions hold it all together. |
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Zeuhl RIO/Avant Specialist Joined: May 03 2009 Location: Montréal Online Status: Offline Posts: 8323 |
Posted: September 07 2009 at 16:51 |
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I voted for Relayer, as it is probably my favourite Yes album. I find it even better than Close to the Edge, sometimes. Fragile is good. But Tales From Topographic Oceans is also better.
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Online Status: Offline Posts: 15742 |
Posted: September 07 2009 at 16:54 |
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Fragile: just for the fact that I grew with it, and every note just makes me remember of my even younger days :P
However Relayer is no doubt one heck-of-a-record, and Yes' most challenging one. |
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manofmystery
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Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Online Status: Offline Posts: 3696 |
Posted: September 07 2009 at 20:26 |
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this is easy:
Fragile is an entire album of great songs
Relayer is one brilliant song followed by two relative clunkers
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topofsm
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Joined: August 17 2008 Location: Arizona, USA Online Status: Offline Posts: 1702 |
Posted: September 07 2009 at 21:13 |
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Relayer for sure. Gates of Delirium is incredible all by itself. While I don't care for most of Sound Chaser, To Be Over is Pretty good. Fragile is pretty good, but too accessible for my tastes and only good for a couple moments.
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Dellinger
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Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Online Status: Offline Posts: 3771 |
Posted: September 07 2009 at 22:04 |
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Fragile, It's a whole great album competing with one great epic song as far as I'm concerned.
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JLocke
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Joined: November 18 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5098 |
Posted: September 07 2009 at 22:31 |
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"Relayer" without question.
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PROGMONSTER2008
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Joined: December 09 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 610 |
Posted: September 07 2009 at 22:31 |
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Fragile-several strong songs Relayer-3 good songs with great parts and kind of boring or annoying parts
Fragile wins because Relayer suffers from each song being twice as long as they need to be. The 3 songs start of cool with great musicianship and ideas, but Gates just turns into a 15-20 minute song with 5 minutes of noises in the middle and finishes with a half decent eerie sounding ballad. Soundchaser starts of cool too, but then becomes annoying imo. To be over is mainly cool all the way through though
Edited by PROGMONSTER2008 - September 07 2009 at 22:32 |
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Jazz/Classical Rock(70's style prog/fusion). Lots of prog keys and melodies(all original ideas)
http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008 |
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zbida
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Joined: January 16 2006 Location: Poland Online Status: Offline Posts: 673 |
Posted: September 08 2009 at 01:52 |
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Never had any doubt - Fragile. Relayer is really great piece of prog, but with no spirit.
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tdfloyd
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Joined: April 06 2008 Location: USA Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
Posted: September 08 2009 at 02:03 |
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Fragile it is. To Be Over hits the spot but Gates of Delirium is hit and miss with me. Nothing wrong with Fragile.
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Green Shield Stamp
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Joined: February 17 2009 Location: Telford, UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 696 |
Posted: September 08 2009 at 13:04 |
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I think that Rick Wakeman's cod classical 'Cans and Brahms' is partly responsible for relegating Fragile into the second division of Yes albums. Whereas 'Relayer' is definitely on a par with the mighty 'Close to the Edge'. Towards the end of 'The Gates of Delirium' with the emergence of the 'Soon' melody is (in my humble opinion) Yes' greatest recorded moment.
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Padraic
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Canterbury Scene Team Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Online Status: Online Posts: 27747 |
Posted: September 08 2009 at 13:06 |
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I'll take both, please.
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Negoba
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Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Online Status: Offline Posts: 4993 |
Posted: September 08 2009 at 13:15 |
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Cha cha cha cha.....
Hmmm.....good poll.....can't decide.....maybe I need to listen to Fragile.
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Current Listening:
Heater valve kicking on. Snotty noses being blown. Griping. Maybe cookies coming out of the oven??? C is for cookie, and it is good enough for me. |
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micky
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 13:29 |
cha cha cha.... cha cha... need to put on the YesRemix version of Soundchaser.. who says you can't dance to prog ![]() |
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