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 Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:21 |
Tarkus may play a starring role in my next Best O'Five poll.
Brain Salad Surgery is another Best O'Five: my fave of ELP, Pictures at an Exhibition, Trilogy and these two albums.
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micky
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 20:33 |
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To be honest, I think the song "Tarkus" is the most brilliant thing ELP has ever done.
"Karn Evil 9" is second...but because of that second impression, I tend to prefer Tarkus.
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really.... I'm curious... what didn't you like about the 2nd Impression... I thought the 3rd was the weakest.. the 2nd was purely instrumental.. and great stuff to my ears... sort of hard to dislike that... and like ELP.. at least to me.
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J-Man
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 20:49 |
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I don't like the second impression either. I really can't get into ELP at all. The problem with the second impression is just that it's an instrumental section that gets the song NOWHERE, and is almost filler.
I know you asked why Robert thought that, but that's my opinion.
-Jeff
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micky
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 20:56 |
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for what's it's worth... that is why as an 'epic' I really rate BSS low.. much lower than Tarkus whose simplicity is it's greatest strength.
musically though.. the first two impression were killer filler... and as I like to say... if I want a good story.. I read a book.. not listen to albums. Filler doesn't bother me... I just want to be stimulated musically
and for me.. ELP is ear cocaine... but it isn't for everyone
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The Quiet One
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 20:57 |
J-Man wrote:
I don't like the second impression either. I really can't get into ELP at all. The problem with the second impression is just that it's an instrumental section that gets the song NOWHERE, and is almost filler.
I know you asked why Robert thought that, but that's my opinion.
-Jeff
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I also feel that the 2nd Impression is kind of filler. I mean, it goes nowhere for me, it doesn't have much to do with the 1st and 3rd Impression. If this had been released by Return to Forever, this would have been killer. However, I'm also not someone who can be considered a ELP fan.
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 20:59 |
micky wrote:
for what's it's worth... that is why as an 'epic' I really rate BSS low.. much lower than Tarkus whose simplicity is it's greatest strength.
musically though.. the first two impression were killer filler... and as I like to say... if I want a good story.. I read a book.. not listen to albums. Filler doesn't bother me... I just want to be stimulated musically
and for me.. ELP is ear cocaine... but it isn't for everyone
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The bolded and underlined are killer lines for a signature, unfortunately I'm not the indicated one to put that on my sig.
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micky
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 21:05 |
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crap... obviously I meant Karn Evil 9 the epic... feeling this bottle of wine a bit this evening. hahha.
yeah... that is a good signature... I might have to use that after the Del Potro ends Rafa's run tomorrow... or Monday hahahha.
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rogerthat
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 21:59 |
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The 2nd impression has a very tenuous link if at all with the rest of Karn Evil 9 but at least it's fun compared to the rather predictable 3rd impression which ultimately takes too long to make its point. Anyway, Tarkus (the epic) is just as much fun, maybe more, and a lot more focussed, so Tarkus by a long shot. The rest of the songs don't really alter the equation much either way for me.
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 22:13 |
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I'm a pretty big ELP fan, I love Pictures, the S/t, Tarkus, and Trilogy. But I hate Brain Salad Surgery, it's so hard to not laugh at. It's so commercialized and cheesy.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 22:25 |
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Tarkus
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crimson87
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 22:53 |
If ELP is ear cocaine then I am Maradona
Sort of a low blow but I had to do it. He is leaving us out of the World Cup you know...
Edited by crimson87 - September 12 2009 at 23:05
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 03:45 |
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BSS.
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 12:28 |
For me Brain Salad Surgery is a five star album while Tarkus is only a three star album. I think that every part of Karn Evil 9 is exactly where it should be and it is by far the best piece of music by ELP. Tarkus is also a good piece but I have never considered it on par with Karn Evil 9. The weak spots on the other side of Tarkus brings it down, Are You Ready Eddie? is possibly the worst ELP song ever.
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crimhead
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 12:33 |
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BSS. I have always liked it from day one.
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 13:25 |
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Tarkus is saved by the title track from being below average. BSS is more consistent, and even the shorter songs are good, but Karn Evil 9 is the heart of the album, of course.
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 14:33 |
crimson87 wrote:
If ELP is ear cocaine then I am Maradona
Sort of a low blow but I had to do it. He is leaving us out of the World Cup you know... |
"Ear Cocaine? Low blow? Humour, it can be a difficult concept?
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 14:40 |
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I voted for Tarkus only because it's a rawer recording. BSS is more 'refined'. Gregy had more time to polish his production skills by 1973. If BSS had been done back in 1971 I think it would have had the raw edge the piece deserved. That being said, my favourite is really Trilogy (sans The Sheriff)
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micky
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 14:42 |
JD wrote:
I voted for Tarkus only because it's a rawer recording. BSS is more 'refined'. Gregy had more time to polish his production skills by 1973. If BSS had been done back in 1971 I think it would have had the raw edge the piece deserved. That being said, my favourite is really Trilogy (sans The Sheriff)
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interesting view of the album  not sure if I agree.. but a clappie for using your grey matter..
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:53 |
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BSS has no weak moments. Tarkus does. BSS it is.
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 23:06 |
Come on, just look at the album covers! A big, metal tanklike armadillo crusing menacingly past a pile of bones on a whimsically striped desert?
.......who needs H.R. Giger?
But seriously, Tarkus wins for me, although I must say I consider both albums to be pretty spotty.
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