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Poll Question: Which book do you recomend to read first?
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    Posted: September 26 2009 at 18:14
I'm intrigued to read one of her works but I'm undecided to which one first.

Besides voting, if you can add a brief explanation why you voted that, that would be really helpful
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 18:16
I've read all 4 of her official books multiple times, and I typically tell people to read The Fountainhead first.

As to these two options... it's tough to say. It depends on what you're looking for. Because Anthem is 1,000 pages less than Atlas Shrugged, the depth of both books varies quite a bit. Atlas Shrugged is better book, in my opinion (being the 2nd best book ever, losing barely to The Fountainhead)---but Anthem is a very, very good read as well.

Get both.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 19:15
I predict that this thread will be filled with calm, reasoned discussion, and that absolutely no fights will break out.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 19:39
The Communist Manifesto.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:02
I liked Anathem by Neal Stephenson.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:10
Pablo, I cast the first vote.

It was in favor of Anthem.

The reasoning is twofold:

1) Anthem takes an hour or two, while Atlas Shrugged takes about ten days.

2) Anthem is a concise version of Rand's view, while Atlas Shrugged is long as f**k.

THAT SAID....

If you WANT something good and long to read, go for the big book.  However, Rand writes really crappy sex scenes, so there.  Big smile

Hope this helps buddy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:18
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Pablo, I cast the first vote.

It was in favor of Anthem.

The reasoning is twofold:

1) Anthem takes an hour or two, while Atlas Shrugged takes about ten days.

2) Anthem is a concise version of Rand's view, while Atlas Shrugged is long as f**k.

THAT SAID....

If you WANT something good and long to read, go for the big book.  However, Rand writes really crappy sex scenes, so there.  Big smile

Hope this helps buddy.


ThanksSmile

So, what you mean is, Anthem is a brief "version" of Atlas Shrugged ? Or something like that ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:24
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Pablo, I cast the first vote.

It was in favor of Anthem.

The reasoning is twofold:

1) Anthem takes an hour or two, while Atlas Shrugged takes about ten days.

2) Anthem is a concise version of Rand's view, while Atlas Shrugged is long as f**k.

THAT SAID....

If you WANT something good and long to read, go for the big book.  However, Rand writes really crappy sex scenes, so there.  Big smile

Hope this helps buddy.


ThanksSmile

So, what you mean is, Anthem is a brief "version" of Atlas Shrugged ? Or something like that ?


"Anthem" is a "basic version."

Truth is, none of Rand's novels do a good job succinctly explaining her philosophy (The Fountainhead comes the closest).  She was honestly not a good writer in terms of literature.

If you want the WHOLE deal, get Atlas Shrugged.  Then read The Fountainhead.  2000 pages later you will be a master of her philosophy (especially since 75 page or so of Atlas Shrugged is one man's speech).




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:25
I guess I should say that Anthem is Sci-Fi, whereas Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead are more or less realistic fiction (the latter more so than the former).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:26
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Pablo, I cast the first vote.

It was in favor of Anthem.

The reasoning is twofold:

1) Anthem takes an hour or two, while Atlas Shrugged takes about ten days.

2) Anthem is a concise version of Rand's view, while Atlas Shrugged is long as f**k.

THAT SAID....

If you WANT something good and long to read, go for the big book.  However, Rand writes really crappy sex scenes, so there.  Big smile

Hope this helps buddy.


ThanksSmile

So, what you mean is, Anthem is a brief "version" of Atlas Shrugged ? Or something like that ?


"Anthem" is a "basic version."

Truth is, none of Rand's novels do a good job succinctly explaining her philosophy (The Fountainhead comes the closest).  She was honestly not a good writer in terms of literature.

If you want the WHOLE deal, get Atlas Shrugged.  Then read The Fountainhead.  2000 pages later you will be a master of her philosophy (especially since 75 page or so of Atlas Shrugged is one man's speech).




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Forget about her philosophy, is Anthem or Atlas Shrugged fun or entertaining to read, like say 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:32
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Pablo, I cast the first vote.

It was in favor of Anthem.

The reasoning is twofold:

1) Anthem takes an hour or two, while Atlas Shrugged takes about ten days.

2) Anthem is a concise version of Rand's view, while Atlas Shrugged is long as f**k.

THAT SAID....

If you WANT something good and long to read, go for the big book.  However, Rand writes really crappy sex scenes, so there.  Big smile

Hope this helps buddy.


ThanksSmile

So, what you mean is, Anthem is a brief "version" of Atlas Shrugged ? Or something like that ?


"Anthem" is a "basic version."

Truth is, none of Rand's novels do a good job succinctly explaining her philosophy (The Fountainhead comes the closest).  She was honestly not a good writer in terms of literature.

If you want the WHOLE deal, get Atlas Shrugged.  Then read The Fountainhead.  2000 pages later you will be a master of her philosophy (especially since 75 page or so of Atlas Shrugged is one man's speech).




Confused She's not a good writer, then ? I

Forget about her philosophy, is Anthem or Atlas Shrugged fun or entertaining to read, like say 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World ?


Basically, no.

Great mind.

sh*tty writer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:32
She is a very "blocky" writer. She is one of those writers who can take up pages trying to describe something. It's like an engineer trying to write a novel; very technical and no passion.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:37
Originally posted by KoS KoS wrote:

She is a very "blocky" writer. She is one of those writers who can take up pages trying to describe something. It's like an engineer trying to write a novel; very technical and no passion.



Excellent description.

For a woman who desired economy in government, she had no economy of words.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:40
^hmm, thanks for that, I'll take that in mind...

A definite 'no' for Atlas Shrugged then.... Anthem might take a chance, since it's short...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:49
I tried Atlas once and admit I couldn't finish it.  Didn't have that kind of patience in my 20s.  I could try again now but I don't care to. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:50
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

^hmm, thanks for that, I'll take that in mind...

A definite 'no' for Atlas Shrugged then.... Anthem might take a chance, since it's short...


Well, I read Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead for one high school class.  I am glad I did in retrospect...

...but go to Athem first.  If that interests you in the least, hit up one of the others.  Smile

EDIT:  The "others" aren't that bad, just long as hell.  Rand just isn't the best writer of fiction, that's all.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:53
And I'll tell you this Pablo...

Want a magnificent work of fiction with meaning?

A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving.

If you don't have that book and can't get it easily, PM me your address, and I'll buy and mail you a copy of it.

It's a bit long (and has some diversions on American politics of the 1980s), but the last four pages made me quit writing for MONTHS).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2009 at 22:59
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

And I'll tell you this Pablo...

Want a magnificent work of fiction with meaning?

A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving.

If you don't have that book and can't get it easily, PM me your address, and I'll buy and mail you a copy of it.

It's a bit long (and has some diversions on American politics of the 1980s), but the last four pages made me quit writing for MONTHS).


Thanks, will try to find it. Smile

Seems pretty interesting from what I'm reading on Wikipedia.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2009 at 05:58
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I tried Atlas once and admit I couldn't finish it.  Didn't have that kind of patience in my 20s.  I could try again now but I don't care to. 
 
Exactly my experience and sentiments too!
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