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Tarquin Underspoon
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Topic: Bowie vs. Solo GabrielPosted: October 23 2009 at 17:20 |
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(This may belong in prog-related, not really sure)
I was just thinking today that the solo careers of David Bowie and Peter Gabriel have an oddly similar sound, especially in the early 80s (For example, Scary Monsters, IMO, could have been a Peter Gabriel album, and So would have made a nice Bowie record). These are two innovaive stage performers who often created characters out of their music and made each concert a grand spectacle. While their two starting points are quite different, both of these unique artists put out a large collection of excellent and diverse music, all the while pushing the boundaries and acheiving massive popularity.
My question is simple. Whose solo (as in NOT Genesis) output do you prefer, and why?
Myself? As much as I love PG, I'm gonna give this one to the Thin White Duke, who I feel is a vastly underrated musical figure.
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Silverbeard McStarr
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 17:26 |
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I love both Peter Gabriel and David Bowie, but I've gotta vote Bowie.
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mrcozdude
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 17:41 |
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aginor
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 17:42 |
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I only have Ziggi Stardust and Hunky Dory and none of Gabriel so i can not wote
but the two Bowie albums i have are pure genius, marvelus |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 17:48 |
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I'm giving it to Gabriel because while Gabriel has worked with Robert Fripp, David Bowie has also worked with Robert Fripp.
Bonus points if you can guess what TV show inspired that line. Double bonus points if you can name the episode. I will say, I do like them both, but I have all of Peter's solo albums and will always get his latest, but I feel no need to complete my Bowie discography. Bowie's work prior to getting involved with progressive artists doesn't float my boat so to speak. |
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A penny for my thoughts and yet I have to put my two cents in. What the hell is wrong with this equation?
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snobb
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 17:56 |
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Both Bowie and Peter Gabriel were great musicians of their time. Like you them or not, many musicians were influented by them. And if I really like some Gabriel works, I prefer Bowie, as greatest figure. He was very influential from early 70 till late 90, and just recorded long list of great works. Gabriel (solo) made some great work, but for years was more more important as Man in Music world, than real active musician.
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Progosopher
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 19:18 |
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I prefer Gabriel, and think his work is overall more consistent than Bowie's, although it does have its ups and downs. However, Peter is not as prolific as David; when David is good, he's really good, but he has also produced enough material that leaves me blank that it's easy for me to burn out on him. Both are great artists, though.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 19:19 |
One of my favourite ever prog artists. |
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Roland113
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 19:26 |
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Yeah, for me this one was easy. While I like some of Bowie's stuff, I love Gabriel.
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Chris S
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 19:47 |
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Both brilliant but too different to compare. Both minimalist of late in terms of studio output but their contributions over the years beggar belief
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crimhead
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 20:08 |
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Peter for me. I respect Bowie and his catalog but I have always been a Gabriel fan.
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Negoba
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 20:11 |
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This poll is affront on all things sane.....
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bhikkhu
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 21:04 |
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I have to go with Gabriel simply because his output was more consistently high quality. Yeas, I know Bowie released a hell of a lot more albums, but that's kind of the point. Gabriel only releases something when he satisfied with it. And before you take opposition to that, I also respect Bowie's willingness to experiment. I like them both, but that's what I choose Gabriel.
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fuxi
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Posted: October 24 2009 at 04:18 |
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I'm amazed at some of the replies here.
I was there when PG's solo career took off, he was one of my heroes, I totally adored his first solo album. The second one was disappointing, but with nrs. three and four he hit gold and YES, he seemed similar to Bowie at the time: equally daring, equally intelligent, equally using ideas from a wide variety of sources! But PG's solo career never went through the same amazing trajectory Bowie's had in the 1970s. Whenever I think of that sequence, I'm in awe: SPACE ODDITY-MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD-HUNKY DORY-ZIGGY STARDUST-PINUPS-DIAMOND DOGS-YOUNG AMERICANS-STATIONTOSTATION-LOW-HEROES-SCARY MONSTERS! It's a ten-year high PG has never matched. (I rate ALADDIN SANE and LODGER a little lower but they're fascinating still.) And these days, Bowie's 1970s albums give me greater pleasure than PG's solo stuff. P.S. Back in the late 1970s, PG may have derived the idea of recording an entire album in German from Bowie singing "Helden", but have any of you noticed that Bowie's recent "Never Get Old" is an almost 100% rehash (rather annoying, in my view) of PG's "Games without Frontiers"? |
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Posted: October 24 2009 at 05:03 |
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hard question, i think i vote for bowie in the end. |
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Posted: October 24 2009 at 06:10 |
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David Bowie made a good start with his first three albums. Hereafter he had his fine moments now and then. Peter Gabriel has his lesser moments, but I prefer most of his solo output above Bowie's.
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SgtPepper67
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Posted: October 24 2009 at 06:32 |
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I love both of them! I can't decide
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Posted: October 24 2009 at 12:27 |
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Bowie is probably my favorite song writer of all time as well as a top 5 singer to me. So it's pretty easy.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 24 2009 at 15:43 |
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Personal taste: Peter Gabriel.
Objective POV: both were innovators, but as it comes to the music purely I think Gabriel was more of a pioneer. Bowie had a great talent in using lots of influences for his own style. Gabriel was really doing new things, like some time not using cymbals for percussion, little details that no one had done before, and Gabriel had a wider array of musical styles that he did. Bowie used a wide array of styles and used it often in something that is essentialy pop / rock music. Well , not always, but often. But look at the differences between Gabriel's first album, Passion and OVO for instance. Also, I think there's much more depth in Gabriel's albums. In emotions, in lyrics. So I vote Gabriel. |
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aginor
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Posted: October 24 2009 at 19:58 |
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Rick Wakeman sites that David Bowie is the gratest musician and the person who have influend him moust as an artist more then any one else (to make it short Rick Wakeman sites Bowie as the gratest man he have EVVER playd for)
if you read interviewa by Rick you may notice him kissing Bowies feets in admiration (almoust) |
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