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    Posted: October 29 2009 at 12:37
I've never been able to get into Duke, and haven't listened to it in eons.  Maybe it's because that's when I was discovering The Lamb and Selling England, and Wind & Wuthering.  It just didn't sound the way I  wanted it to.
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  Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2009 at 12:56
Obviously, the debut. From genesis to Revelations.
 
Followed by Calling all Stations.
 
Of the 3-4-5 albums, the only one that almost sucks is ABACAB
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  Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2009 at 13:35
The self titled by a long stretch. An exceptional first side followed by quite the worse second side of an album ever made. It wasn't good prog, not good pop, not good rock, nor good anything, and the secret to their success was to make a fantastic blend of each.


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  Quote akamaisondufromage Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2009 at 15:33
Originally posted by valravennz

Actually, for me, The Lamb was and is still the hardest Genesis album to get into. I have never really got to grips with it and in comparison with earlier and the much maligned albums of the 80's period such as "Abacab" and the s/t "Genesis", The Lamb, imo is long, ponderous and boring!! The best album they ever did and never surpassed was SEBTP.
 
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Anyway, it's a difficult question cos I can't listen to anything after ATTWT (Couple of dodgy tracks on that) but I still like it - after that I liked Duke and ABACAB and even Genesis when they came out but now!  Well I like challenging music and none of them are that.  And I like GOOD POP and none of them are that! 
 
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ABACAB gets such an unfair rap here.
FGTR and Invisible Touch are my least favorites.
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  Quote lazlocarreidas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2009 at 14:22
I am very surprised that people are naming FGTR as a bad album. For me it is so good, so beautiful and special.

Ok, the worst: "Calling All Stations".

Then "We Can't Dance", then "Invisible Touch", and then "Genesis"

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  Quote mourningknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2009 at 15:07
For me,it's a toss up between Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance. Just the mere thought of them makes me want to hurl BUT at least Invisible Touch has The Brazilian ,so We Can't Dance it is! Just horrible.
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  Quote J-Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2009 at 15:23
Invisible Touch or their Self Titled.

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  Quote splyu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2009 at 16:45
Originally posted by lazlocarreidas

I am very surprised that people are naming FGTR as a bad album. For me it is so good, so beautiful and special.

I agree. While obviously not prog, for the life of me I can't see that it's a bad album, on the contrary, very very good late 60s psych-pop or whatever you're going to call it.

Edit. The replies in this thread are getting on my nerves, seriously. I know I used to be the same, thinking anything good about Genesis stopped with ATTW3, or Duke at the very latest. Then, after years in that ignorant state of mind, I got Abacab, and thought it wasn't half bad. Then I got Genesis and thought it was even better! In fact, by now, I think every single Genesis album has its merits. Have you guys listened to Fading Lights from We Can't Dance? The Dividing Line from Calling All Stations? Really. You like what you like, sure, but judge things on what they are, not what you want them to be.


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  Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2009 at 21:57
I actually think Genesis did have some prog or at least proto-prog moments on their first album and I do think that on their latter albums they did throw their prog fans the occasional bone, so I wouldn't be surprised if Fading Lights was the boner from We Can't Dance.
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  Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 09:17
FGTR >>> I actually like this album.... It's revealling (no pun) of their early influences
 
ATTWT & Duke >>> both are still proggish to me and I must say that I've upped my opinion on these two in the last decade
 
Abacab >>> definitely among the worst >>> I hate almost everything on it, excpt for the title track and maybe Lurker
 
Shapes >> axtually side 1 is not that bad (almost of the Duke level) with Home By The Sean Mama, That's all,....... but the horrible second side sinks it
 
Invisible Touch >>> if it wasn't for Land Of Confusion, I'd hate everything about it..... this album is as bad as Abacab, IMHO   ..... and the proof that longer tracks are not necessarily better
 
We Can't Dance >>> I never really got up to listening to this one, the title turning me off before I even look at the back of the album for the track list.... The few tracks I remember (Jesus He Knows me, No Son Of Mine , etc...) are so aggressive to me that I don't think I gave this album a fair chance.... I won't rate worse tha, IT or Abacab though, partially because I haven't heard it all..... or should I say: I heard it all, but didn't isten to it.
 
 
Calling All Stations >>> I remember listening to this one about two years aftezr it had come out (to tell you how much of a hurry I was in) and thinking of the better moments of Abacab, but as with WCD, I can't say I'm remembnering that much of this album, so I won't rate is as low as IT or Abacab
 
 
 
 


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  Quote Jozef Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 11:06
I actually enjoy Invisible Touch quite a bit. I agree that the album is weak at some points, but overall I do enjoy most of what's on there.

I think all their 80s albums have their strong and weak points and there are good songs on each one of them.

Plus, I for one actually enjoy "Illegal Alien" and "Whodunnit?". I think they're nice representations of the fun, silly side of the band.
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  Quote SgtPepper67 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 12:11
Invisible touch and We can't dance are definitely their weakest in my opinion, although there are some great tracks on them.
After reading The Book of Revelation and watching the remaster DVD interviews it really surprised they don't really seem satisfied with any of thei Gabriel era album, wich I considered definitely some of their best, while they seem very proud of albums like Abacab or Genesis. I haven't get to part where they talk about Invisible touch or We can't dance yet, but I hope they don't think those are better than anything they released on the 70's or I'll be very disappointed.

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  Quote Bitterblogger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2009 at 14:23
Calling All Stations. Talk about falling far from the halcyon days.
Bit unfair to sl*g their debut, since they hadn't found their sound yet, IMO.
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  Quote Alberto Muņoz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2009 at 20:47
Calling All Stations is the worst album, at least for me.


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