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    Posted: November 02 2009 at 20:56

About 10 years ago i bought 4 tull cd's. Aqualung, Thick as a brick, A passion play and Warchild. All before the remasters came out. Thick as a brick was the masterpiece and the other were patchy with some very good tunes here and there. I only recently heard about the 1974 extra tracks and their high standard on the latest release of Warchild and found out about Living in the past and how it has lots of songs from 1971 and previous years which are also high standard. I bought Living in the past and Warchild and by golly these extra tracks are good. They suddenly make Tull so much better in the  2 years(1971 and 1974) which bookmarked their 2 prog epics of 1972 and 1973. It's interesting that alot of their best songs were not part of an album. Anyway, I'm suddenly enjoying Tull of 1971 and 1974 a whole lot more and maybe as much as 1972. Which are your fave 5 songs from those 2 years?

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1971-up the pool, dr bogenbroom, wondring again, cross eyed mary, aqualung
1974-sealion(part 2), glory row, rainbow blues, paradise steakhouse, queen and country
 
I still need to get the new release of aqualung. I'll get that next Smile


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I can't tell you how glad I am someone finally wrote some words in praise of up the pool, dr bogenbroom and wondring again. They're as delightful as anything the band did in these early years! I don't believe there's a digital remaster of LIVING IN THE PAST, is there?

As for 1974, I actually love most of WARCHILD. It was the very first JT album I got to know, back in 1975, and I still think only 'Bungle in the Jungle' is a dud. My personal favourites on the album are "Ladies" and (especially) "Back Door Angels". The latter has a great "neo-elizabethan" melody and the best ever Martin Barre/Barriemore Barlow workout. Hurrah!
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I, too, got into Tull through WarChild. And I agree that only "Bungle" is unworthy. Too bad they chose it as the single. I've always loved "Two Fingers" especially from that disc: how can one argue with the sage advice therein:
                            "And as you leave the Good Ship Earth, and you mingle with the dust,
                             you'd better leave your underpants with someone you can trust"?
 
 
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Too true! (About those underpants, I mean. )

You know, for my friend and me, who were growing up in Belgium (just across the pond from the U.K.), all this talk about "having another cup of tea dear?" while the 2nd World War was raging outside sounded ever so delightfully British.

Still back in '75, soon after I discovered WAR CHILD, I got to know A PASSION PLAY, and I've always thought it had a similar "sound" (electric guitars, acoustic guitars, mandolins, glockenspiel, funny synths, Ian on sax and Barriemore B's inimitable drumming). Now that both albums have been remastered, I really get a kick out of listening to all the detail. Jethro Tull chucked in far more intricate arrangements than contemporaries like Genesis or Yes. I was reminded of this when I watched the new MADISON SQUARE GARDEN DVD. By then, of course, they had TWO keyboardists, both inserting ye olde Englishe FUGUES into rock'n'roll!
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Living in the Past
Aqualung
Thick As a Brick
My God
Skating Away On the Thin Ice of a New Day

I dunno about just those two years but there's my top 5 from them.
"It's music, and I like it" - Miles Davis on Sketches of Spain

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A Passion Play
Thick as a Brick
Wind Up
Two Fingers
Cross Eyed Mary
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Thick As A Brick
A Passion Play
My God
Wind Up
Up to Me
 
I dislike Warchild... I prefer Minstrel by far. If we included this album, I'd add Baker St. Muse, Minstrel In The Gallery, Black Satin Dancer and One White Duck
Les deux pieds dans même bottine,
Les mains plein d'pouces,
Les mains dans ses poches.
Ça joue a'ec son p'tit change,
Toujours accoté quelqu'part,
Ça parle, ça fume,
Ça mâche d'la gomme.
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Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag

Thick As A Brick
A Passion Play
My God
Wind Up
Up to Me
 
I dislike Warchild... I prefer Minstrel by far. If we included this album, I'd add Baker St. Muse, Minstrel In The Gallery, Black Satin Dancer and One White Duck
 
Warchild to me is a bunch of commercially friendly tunes made for a comedy movie soundtrack. There's something about some of the songs that seem overly cheerfull. Either musically or lyrically. But once you get to the bonus tracks it sounds like Tull playing first class Tull tunes again. I just love the acoustics Glory row and March the mad scientist(1974 according to the 20th ann box set). They just sound like typical great Tull acoustics. Other goodies are Paradise steakhouse and Saturation which are mildy heavy in the Cross eyed Mary style. Rainbow blues is a bit of a Tull classic and Sealion 2 is kick ass. I really like Quartet and Warchild waltz also. These are those typical proggy style tunes with the medievil feel to them. I love Aqualung Side 1 and equally rate the Warchild bonus tracks at the same quality. Aqualung was the better original album, but with bonus tracks included on both, I think Warchild is about equal. Both remasters have about 8-10 real good songs and maybe 4-7 not so good songs LOL
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All these WARCHILD put-downs make me SAAAAD!

But I'll admit MINSTREL is artistically superior.

Funny thing is, when MINSTREL came out (the LP), I immediately bought it. The first Tull album I ever got! And initially I was disappointed by its stripped-down sound. (No saxes, no comic exuberance, no full orchestras, no funny synths!) But I gradually learnt to love it.
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Originally posted by fuxi

I can't tell you how glad I am someone finally wrote some words in praise of up the pool, dr bogenbroom and wondring again. They're as delightful as anything the band did in these early years! I don't believe there's a digital remaster of LIVING IN THE PAST, is there?

As for 1974, I actually love most of WARCHILD. It was the very first JT album I got to know, back in 1975, and I still think only 'Bungle in the Jungle' is a dud. My personal favourites on the album are "Ladies" and (especially) "Back Door Angels". The latter has a great "neo-elizabethan" melody and the best ever Martin Barre/Barriemore Barlow workout. Hurrah!
 
Funny. The Living in the past remastered is very easy to find here.
I had it in vinyl and thought it wasn't their best so I did not bother buying the CD (and rhe remastered Stand up has a lot of this staff anyway).
 
Back to topic - I think "My god" is the one song that stands alone far from all the others. 
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Originally posted by omri

The Living in the past remastered is very easy to find here.
I had it in vinyl and thought it wasn't their best so I did not bother buying the CD (and rhe remastered Stand up has a lot of this staff anyway).

 

Back to topic - I think "My god" is the one song that stands alone far from all the others. 


Are you talking about the so-called Limited Edition version of LIVING, on two CDs?
This now sells at amazon.uk for about £200! (Around $200, I guess.)

"My God" is nice, but my AQUALUNG fave has always been WIND UP.
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I notice Aqualung has quad version of Wind up as well as Lick your fingers clean. I want to get MU-best of JT, it supposedly has a quad version of Locomotive breath. Anyone prefer these versions?


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Thick as a brick     I just love it
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Originally posted by fuxi

All these WARCHILD put-downs make me SAAAAD!

But I'll admit MINSTREL is artistically superior.

Funny thing is, when MINSTREL came out (the LP), I immediately bought it. The first Tull album I ever got! And initially I was disappointed by its stripped-down sound. (No saxes, no comic exuberance, no full orchestras, no funny synths!) But I gradually learnt to love it.
  I actually prefer Warchild to much of MInstrel. So what if Warchild is light hearted and comic? What does that matter? Jethro Tull ALWAYS had a great sense of humor (for example, what makes these songs less valid than The Hare That Lost It's Spectacles?) and these tunes show it off. I'll say, though, that the bests ongs off of Minstrel are better than the best songs on this album. Minstrel in the Gallery, Cold Wind to Valhalla and Baker Street Muse are classic Tull. However, most of the rest of the album is, quite frankly, dull. Luckily, those three tunes make up over half of the album. LOL Warchild is simply more consistent in it's pleasant goofiness.
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Originally posted by fuxi

All these WARCHILD put-downs make me SAAAAD! But I'll admit MINSTREL is artistically superior. Funny thing is, when MINSTREL came out (the LP), I immediately bought it. The first Tull album I ever got! And initially I was disappointed by its stripped-down sound. (No saxes, no comic exuberance, no full orchestras, no funny synths!) But I gradually learnt to love it.
  I actually prefer Warchild to much of MInstrel. So what if Warchild is light hearted and comic? What does that matter? Jethro Tull ALWAYS had a great sense of humor (for example, what makes these songs less valid than The Hare That Lost It's Spectacles?) and these tunes show it off. I'll say, though, that the bests ongs off of Minstrel are better than the best songs on this album. Minstrel in the Gallery, Cold Wind to Valhalla and Baker Street Muse are classic Tull. However, most of the rest of the album is, quite frankly, dull. Luckily, those three tunes make up over half of the album. LOL Warchild is simply more consistent in it's pleasant goofiness.


Ha, interesting point, Sonic D... For the first time I've started asking myself if I don't love them equally.

When it comes to MINSTREL, I totally enjoy most of the album - EXCEPT for the opening and closing tracks! "Something must be wrong / with me and my braiiin" [with loads of echo on it] is one of my favourite Tull lines.
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My 5 songs would be:
 
1971
life is a long song(remix)
cross eyed mary
up to me
up the pool
for later
 
1974
saturation
warchild
sealion 2
paradise steakhouse
glory row
 
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I actually made my own version of warchild, assuming it wasn't made for a movie. Tongue

Warchild
Quartet
Paradise steakhouse
March the mad scientist
Rainbow blues
Skating away
Saturation
Glory row
Sealion 2
Solitaire
Queen and country
Warchild waltz
 
I reckon this would have been close to a Tull classic Smile
It would deserve at least 8.5/10 compared to the original 11 song album which would get maybe 7/10. Quite a few new additions Wink 


Edited by PROGMONSTER2008 - November 04 2009 at 18:45
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mmm there so many favourites

 
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Originally posted by PROGMONSTER2008

I actually made my own version of warchild, assuming it wasn't made for a movie. Tongue

Warchild
Quartet
Paradise steakhouse
March the mad scientist
Rainbow blues
Skating away
Saturation
Glory row
Sealion 2
Solitaire
Queen and country
Warchild waltz
 
I reckon this would have been close to a Tull classic Smile
It would deserve at least 8.5/10 compared to the original 11 song album which would get maybe 7/10. Quite a few new additions Wink 
 
Nice. Back door angels may get a spot on my version. I don't mind the other songs Sealion, Third hoorah, Two fingers, Ladies, Bungle. But they do remind me of the circus a bit lol. Most of them would get the cut if a single album had to be made from the whole session of songs. How about a double cd? Would be a pretty good double album with the occasional filler
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Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag

Thick As A Brick
A Passion Play
My God
Wind Up
Up to Me
 
I dislike Warchild... I prefer Minstrel by far. If we included this album, I'd add Baker St. Muse, Minstrel In The Gallery, Black Satin Dancer and One White Duck
 
Interesting. I rated My God and Wind up as 2 of the weakest songs of 1971. I think there's about 20 songs. Lets see. I'll highlight the ones I really like in bold and the ones i quite like in red. The rest are ok. In no particular order
 
1-up the pool
2-dr bogenbroom
3-for later
4-wondring again
5-aqualung
6-cross eyed mary
7-up to me
8-wondring aloud
9-cheap day return
10-mother goose
11-life is a long song(remix)
12-lick your fingers clean
13-wind up(quad)
14-locomotive breath(quad)
15-life is a long song
16-nursie
17-my god
18-wind up
19-locomotive breath
20-hymn 43
21-slipstream
 
 
I quite like the quad version of wind up. It turns the hard rock version into a proggy version with less guitar and cleaner vocals and with more piano and bass. Locomotive breath comes off a bit better in the quad version too. Life is a long song comes up great in the remix. The old version has a very rough and unfinished drum track
 
 


Edited by PROGMONSTER2008 - November 05 2009 at 02:37
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