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Mike Oldfield vs. Mikael Åkerfeldt

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  Quote mohaveman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Mike Oldfield vs. Mikael Åkerfeldt
    Posted: November 17 2009 at 14:32
Go Oldfield~
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  Quote splyu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2009 at 05:42
Originally posted by paganinio

I did so because I wanna enrage the Oldfield fans and make them vote for Oldfield.

I have a feeling the Oldfield fans would have voted for Oldfield anyway. Wink
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  Quote Alberto Muñoz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 12:46
Originally posted by p0mt3

Originally posted by Alberto Muñoz

Absolute are right in what Oldfield have done, he truly composes in more styles that many prog rock bands, and the fact is in the albums themselves.
 
And  p0mt3  i'm curious to know what other modern artist can do what Oldfield have done? 


Why do they have to do exactly what Oldfield has done in order to match or even surpass him musically?
 
I'm not ask that every modern musician have to do what Oldfield done, but i recognize that Oldfield gain his well deserved place in rock's history.

I think people such as Mikael Akerfeldt, Steven Wilson, Jeff Martin, Adam Jones, The fellas in Indukti, Meshuggah, Cynic, etc. are all better songwriters than Oldfield. They may not use the exact same methods or instruments as he does, but that doesn't mean they can't be as good or better.
 
This is own everyone's taste, i like very much Steve Wilson, but in tastes breaks genres.

You can of course argue this, but my main point here is that this is all opinion, and nothing more. I just proved that point not once, but now twice.
 
Agree 10000000 +
 
Any rebuttal you give will just be a different opinion than mine, and therefore cannot contradict it. Is that really so hard for folks to understand?
 
No, but with you statement it seems like a little (just very little) upset.Wink
 


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  Quote p0mt3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 12:27
Originally posted by Alberto Muñoz

Absolute are right in what Oldfield have done, he truly composes in more styles that many prog rock bands, and the fact is in the albums themselves.
 
And  p0mt3  i'm curious to know what other modern artist can do what Oldfield have done? 


Why do they have to do exactly what Oldfield has done in order to match or even surpass him musically?

I think people such as Mikael Akerfeldt, Steven Wilson, Jeff Martin, Adam Jones, The fellas in Indukti, Meshuggah, Cynic, etc. are all better songwriters than Oldfield. They may not use the exact same methods or instruments as he does, but that doesn't mean they can't be as good or better.

You can of course argue this, but my main point here is that this is all opinion, and nothing more. I just proved that point not once, but now twice. Any rebuttal you give will just be a different opinion than mine, and therefore cannot contradict it. Is that really so hard for folks to understand?

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  Quote Alberto Muñoz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 10:35
Originally posted by paganinio

I read the above replies, and decide to apologize. My original post was horribly biased   towards Mikael. Actually it was part of my strategy: I intentionally called Oldfield "new age", and said he would lose by 500 votes. That's mean. I did so because I wanna enrage the Oldfield fans and make them vote for Oldfield. That's my endgame. But it wasn't the right thing to do. Sorry.
 
And you said this until NOW????AngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngry
 
Don't mind LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLWinkWink


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  Quote Wizard/TRueStar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 08:34
Mikael JacksonfeldtWink
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  Quote Qboyy007 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 06:28
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Originally posted by bsms810

i hated the growls at first.... but for some reason i cant explain i now like them...
You mean you "tolerate" them ? How one can like growls ? I listen to a lot of death metal bands but I would never say I like the growls...

Dear god, the narrow mindedness and absolute ignorance of some people is astounding. 


Anyways, Arkfeldt here, Oldfield is typical overrated classic prog. 
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  Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 05:56
Originally posted by paganinio

I read the above replies, and decide to apologize. My original post was horribly biased   towards Mikael. Actually it was part of my strategy: I intentionally called Oldfield "new age", and said he would lose by 500 votes. That's mean. I did so because I wanna enrage the Oldfield fans and make them vote for Oldfield. That's my endgame. But it wasn't the right thing to do. Sorry.


Well hey, it takes guts to admit something like that.  Thanks!  Smile
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  Quote paganinio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 04:53
I read the above replies, and decide to apologize. My original post was horribly biased   towards Mikael. Actually it was part of my strategy: I intentionally called Oldfield "new age", and said he would lose by 500 votes. That's mean. I did so because I wanna enrage the Oldfield fans and make them vote for Oldfield. That's my endgame. But it wasn't the right thing to do. Sorry.
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  Quote Ivan_Melgar_M Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2009 at 10:21
Originally posted by splyu

Originally posted by cronholm


But seriously, how can  Oldfield be ahead in this poll? Is the world going mad?Confused

You people who say that really crack me up. Are you even really familiar with Mike's work? Ommadawn? Amarok? Incantations?
 
It pisses me more, because of the arrogance that it implies.
 
I don't care if we are comparing a good with a bad artist according to me, each person is entitled to his/her own taste.
 
Why must we vote for Akerfeld or be mad?
 
Can't each one of us decide who is better?
 
For God's sake, a bit of respect for te taste of each one of us.
 
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  Quote splyu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2009 at 08:40
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But seriously, how can  Oldfield be ahead in this poll? Is the world going mad?Confused

You people who say that really crack me up. Are you even really familiar with Mike's work? Ommadawn? Amarok? Incantations?
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  Quote cronholm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2009 at 02:41
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im going to go and listen to some Opeth
Well, the atleast  something good came out of this poll then.
 
But seriously, how can  Oldfield be ahead in this poll? Is the world going mad?Confused
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  Quote Alberto Muñoz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2009 at 17:29
Absolute are right in what Oldfield have done, he truly composes in more styles that many prog rock bands, and the fact is in the albums themselves.
 
And  p0mt3  i'm curious to know what other modern artist can do what Oldfield have done? 


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  Quote J-Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2009 at 17:21
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Originally posted by absolute


This is a poll? Count me info for Oldfield.


"Oldfield is good at what he does; but what he does is stock material."

No disrespect to Opeth/Akerfeldt, but it's a very bad comparison- Oldfield's composed in more styles than almost anyone labeled 'prog', everything from Incantations to Songs of Distant Earth can hardly be labelled "stock" in any sense. And honestly I don't find everything Oldfield does as memorable or fantastic- but he has far more accolades than any more modern composer / artist.




That's an opinion; not a fact. Opeth mixes Folk, Jazz, Classic Rock and Metal all the time in their music; not to mention the fact that their music is far superior to many in terms of technical prowess and composition.

You say no modern composer or artist can match Oldfeild, I say different. Big time.


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  Quote p0mt3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2009 at 17:09
Originally posted by absolute


This is a poll? Count me info for Oldfield.


"Oldfield is good at what he does; but what he does is stock material."

No disrespect to Opeth/Akerfeldt, but it's a very bad comparison- Oldfield's composed in more styles than almost anyone labeled 'prog', everything from Incantations to Songs of Distant Earth can hardly be labelled "stock" in any sense. And honestly I don't find everything Oldfield does as memorable or fantastic- but he has far more accolades than any more modern composer / artist.




That's an opinion; not a fact. Opeth mixes Folk, Jazz, Classic Rock and Metal all the time in their music; not to mention the fact that their music is far superior to many in terms of technical prowess and composition.

You say no modern composer or artist can match Oldfeild, I say different. Big time.

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  Quote absolute Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2009 at 16:37

This is a poll? Count me info for Oldfield.


"Oldfield is good at what he does; but what he does is stock material."

No disrespect to Opeth/Akerfeldt, but it's a very bad comparison- Oldfield's composed in more styles than almost anyone labeled 'prog', everything from Incantations to Songs of Distant Earth can hardly be labelled "stock" in any sense. And honestly I don't find everything Oldfield does as memorable or fantastic- but he has far more accolades than any more modern composer / artist.


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  Quote snobb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2009 at 12:33
SmileAt least someone remember  'bout Jackson and even put him at second place! So, it looks Michael is more proggy than Opeth in some places of the world Wink
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  Quote splyu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:37
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The people who like Oldfield more is not vnecesarilly Metal haters

Sorry for the triple post, but I want to say: Indeed! Mike is my favourite but I'm actually a metal fan, including extreme metal. Only Opeth aren't among my favourite metal bands.

and BTW: Oldfiekld is not a New Age artist, Tubular bells is a classic album as well as Amarok and Omadawn....Saying Oldfield is a New Age artist is klike saying Wakeman is also.
 
Plus Oldfield is a complete muti-instrumentaluist, to a level few artists can't even dream.

Again, indeed! Mike does have a few new age albums, but that only started in the mid-90s. And by no means everything he did since then has been new age either. Before that, not at all.
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  Quote splyu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:30
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Anyone who has listened to Tubular Bells also knows that Oldfield can growl pretty well.

Indeed. He does it in Five Miles Out, too.
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  Quote splyu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:29
My ranking: 1. Oldfield, 2. Jackson, 3. Åkerfeldt. All are good, but Åkerfeldt is the least best.
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