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glassonyonpr
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Topic: Will The Real Wishbone Ash Please Stand UpPosted: November 07 2009 at 14:50 |
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11/7/2009 - Redding, CT USA – Founding member of the legendary classic rock band Wishbone Ash, Andy Powell, is setting the record straight about the recent controversy surrounding the ownership and usage of the group's name. A band fronted by another founding member, Martin Turner, is also being promoted as Wishbone Ash, creating confusion among fans and press. |
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Blowin Free
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Posted: November 07 2009 at 23:42 |
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This just sounds like Ash management trying to give Andy Powell some air-time...
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 05:58 |
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It seems a pity that so much energy is spent bickering over the use of the name. If the same effort was made to heal the woulds, we might actually see a genuine Wishbone Ash resurfacing. Having just one member of the original line up in either band is disappointing for the fans either way.
It is always a shame when the legal disputes appear to take precedence over the music.
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Starless
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 06:22 |
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Not knowing of the internicine strife, I saw "Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash" (as they were then billed) last year, and a fine racket they made too. Having just bought the remastered Argus, and then seeing most of that great album played live was jolly good fun!
Reading this post I can understand why Andy Powell would be pissed off that MT's band has slowly morphed into another version of Wishbone Ash, which does indeed lead to some confusion amongst fans and the press. Surely MT must have been aware that he was infringing a trademark? As Easy Livin' says above, would not both parties energies be better expended trying to come to some amicable agreement, even a reunion of some sort?
Mind you, ageing rock stars falling out over the use of a band moniker - never happened before has it??!
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 06:48 |
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I have seen both Wishbone Ash and Martin Turners Wishbone Ash live and both were brilliant, things are quite clear for me but i can understand Powell's concern that young fans could be confused, and also the situation is irritating for him.
I hope they receive an amicable solution, though Martin Turner could tour and record as "Wishbone's Loss"
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 09:21 |
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What a pity, figthing about a band's name.
They should concentrate in the music that is the prime factor.
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Posted: November 16 2009 at 12:14 |
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Hi!
This is my first post, actually after reading this site for many years I wanted to register now and say my opinion about situation. I am big fan of Wishbone Ash. I've been a fan for a very short time, about 2 years, and my favorite period is from mid 70's to 82. I am bassist myself and big fan of Martin Turner, one of best bassists out there. He can play, compose and sing. Martin Turner was one of the main songwriter before he was forced to leave the band. Andy Powell on the other hand started writing songs in late 70's - long after all those classic albums. I liked Martins direction and agree with him that "Just Testing" was great album! Andy on the other hand started making quite bad and nonsence albums... couple of more recent albums are pretty OK but that has actually nothing to do with Wishbone Ash as we used to know. I get angry about Powell's statement that he is only true Wishbone Ash. Well after listening both's recent live recordings I happen to like Martin's Wishbone Ash more. Legally Andy Powell has right to use Wishbone Ash as a band name and others don't, etc. OK. But instead of working together, celebrating 40th anniversary together, pleasing fans etc... Powell is wining! Why, oh why??? Martin Turner deserves a lot more credit than he is getting these days. Without him, there wouldn't be Wishbone Ash, Argus and other excellent albums! |
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Starless
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Posted: November 16 2009 at 16:26 |
This is a wind up surely?? If not, do your research before making such sweeping statements!
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Posted: November 17 2009 at 01:56 |
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Hi Starless, I understand what do you mean, it would be more correct to say that he has been co-author before. There are credits like "written by Wishbone Ash and "
Andy Powell, Martin Turner, Ted Turner, Steve Upton". Yes, he has been in creating process, but most job was still done by Martin and Ted Turner. Andy's first song was released somewhere in 1978 if I am not wrong.
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Posted: November 17 2009 at 09:39 |
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Zed
I can appreciate that English is probably not your first language, and maybe something is lost in translation, but I would think a group composition is exactly that, and unless you were actually there when the song was crafted it would be impossible to say who contributed the most to any particular song.
As I said in my earlier post, the real tragedy is that there is a split in the camp, regardless of whose fault it is. They should cooperate with each other and give the fans a proper Ash reunion!
Incidentally, and this is a purely subjective statement I know, but Wishbone Ash's classic era is before 1975, not after, with the legendary Turner/Powell/Turner/Upton lineup. If you've yet to discover the delights of Pilgrimage, Argus, Live Dates etc, you've a real treat in store.
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Posted: November 17 2009 at 17:03 |
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Starless, that is what I wrote: "Andy Powell on the other hand started writing songs in late 70's - long after all those classic albums". Sorry for my English, but that is excactly what I ment - that classic era was in early 70's! It is is pretty clear :).
Anyways, It is all discussed before us, and everybody is welcomed to read this article and its comments! The fact is that MT was main songwriter - music and lyrics-wise compared to AP from beginning till '80. That was the era where WA became famous. AP has ego problems, it seemes that he can't stand better musicians as he is in his band. Take Trevor Bolder and John Wetton for example! He thinks that his flying V and deedly-doodly is the only true trademark of Wishbone Ash. (OK, maybe it is also now a baseball cap too) Sad ![]() I am sorry for my brave opinion and honest thoughts... |
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