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    Posted: May 16 2005 at 20:30


1. Surgical Sound Specimens From The Museum Of Skin (01:14:16)

You're going into surgery, but something isnt right. You can still hear the voices of people around you, but you can't speak, or move. You can feel the cold knives cutting you open, and you can feel them reaching into your insides, picking you apart. Horrifying to even think of. Now take this feeling, and put it into song.. Hard to imagine yes? Enter Fantomas - Delirium Cordia.

...... MY GOD. This is the most insane 'music' ive ever heard, if you dare call it music. It really cant be put into words, a mad mix of ambience, death metal, jazz, and everything else Mike Patton can cram in there. This is Patton's creativity going overboard, creating something completely original and impossible to describe. The concept is intense, and the music can get very frightening. Sudden bursts of death metal in between ambient segments, this music will scare the hell out of you. Not for the faint of ear, this is definitely a tough peice to wrap your head around.. I don't know what to think of it, but i'm definitely intrigued. The album ends on an odd note, 20 minutes of vinyl crackling, only to build up to someone saying 1234. Save yourself the trouble and consider the song over when this starts. Epic, frightening and wierder than you can imagine. I would'nt recommend buying this album, but if you have an open mind and enjoy dark music, you must hear this. It's like nothng else ever recorded. 3.5/5


Has anybody else heard this cacophony of madness ?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2005 at 18:43
Yeah,I own it.  It's alright, but it gets boring after a while.  I'd rather listen to Suspended Animation or Director's Cut.  Most of it I wouldn't even call music, it's just a lot of sound samples with a little bit of music.  The most insane music you will ever hear can be found on 'Disco Volante' by Mr. Bungle.  Two of the members of Fantomas were in Mr. Bungle, but Mr. Bungle is no more.  (just in case you didn't know).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:04
It's one of my TOP 10. I simply love it! It isn't music, it's climate. Many bands tried to do that, but only a few were able to such(most of all, electronic ones). Mike Patton is a GENIUS. Dunn and Lombardo are the perfect couple in bass/drums rhythm section. Osborne is an amazing guitar player, very creative. GOD, I LOVE THE BAND. And this is their best album. Not an easy one, and definitely not for the genesis fan. It's pure perfection. It sounds like a nightmare, in the good meaning of the word.

I don't know what band is better, Mr. Bungle or Fantômas. Both are equally perfect. Dunn, Spruance (Mr. Bungle guitar man) and Patton are simply brilliant.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 00:41
Mr. Bungle is an amazing band. Patton is a genuis.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2005 at 08:19
This album scared the living crap out of me when I first heard it (I'll never use this album as mood music at a dinner party again!). That said, after a few plays I really got into it's dark theme and the underlying narritive. It's true that the music never really 'gets started' in a regular sense of the word and is very modular but in some ways that is half of this album's appeal.

No pain, no gain.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2005 at 08:25
Never talk about Delirium when Sigod is around 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2005 at 14:20
It is indeed one of the strangest and most frightening albums ever made.  That didn't prevent it from being the least listened to of my Fantomas albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2005 at 14:24

In terms of album's just scaring the sh*t out of you...I wouldn't recommend trying to meditate to Fripp's The Gates Of Paradise...that was certainly an experience for me last night ahah. 

And in honor of this thread I put Delirium Cordia on last night as well...not too too thrilled with it. Despite the semantics, I really didn't get that impression of surgical participance heh.  I  mean what can be said of the part with keyboard typing; (least I think that's what it sounds like) is some doctor typing up a report of the patient or is the patient imagining that portion?  Interesting stuff I guess but musically it truly doesn't go anywhere...which paradoxically could be the aspect of depicting waking up during surgery - anaesthesia atrophying, fugues/black outs, DELIRIUM (key hehe), presage of an afterlife (those almost choir like bits), etc. etc.    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 21:10
Originally posted by con safo con safo wrote:

Mr. Bungle is an amazing band. Patton is a genuis.


I would attribute a lot of Mr. Bungles uniqueness to Trey Spruance and Trevor Dunn.  Patton did some great work on California, but Patton wouldn't have made it anywhere if it hadn't been for Trey and Trevor.  I believe it was them that invited Patton to sing for them actually.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 15:15
here's my review of the album. a portion of this is on amazon.com and is
based on repeated listening and analysis...

"we're gonna lose this guy", February 17, 2004


The audio equivilent to a david lynch film (Eraserhead or Mullholand Dr.),
DELIRIUM CORDIA is a psychological thriller\drama. (the hospital sounds
are "reality", the music is what is going on in the patients head. notice
that the last words being sung are "I'm dying.") It also seems to be a
commentary about the "death" of vinyl (hence the record pops, scratches,
and the actual "mucic" lasting around 50 minutes, the lengh of a typical
lp). Other sounds are weaved into the tapestry : somebody typing on a
computer, a timer, a respirator, and of course the intense sounds of an
emergency room while out of tune guitars clang away. For proof of this
albums genius, listen closely (with headphones) to the sequence which
begins with a digeridoo. Chanting kicks in, difficult to comprehend yet
easy to hear. Strange buzzing appears and shifts from speaker to
speaker, culminating into a frenzy which leads to a brief snippet of the
band playing, which ends with the final note being repeated at a lower
sampled tone. No other band has dared to attempt anything so
adventurous and frightening since Univers Zero's La Faulx.

But most importantly, Delirium Cordia is hands down the best album of
2004 (top noch production, heavy instrumentation). Give the public a few
years to realise just how groundbreaking this little disc is.
Blarg! My cheese has bones!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 15:29
I almost forgot. if you want to hear an equally insane album, check out
"Cacophony" by punk band Rudimentary Peni. It's a concept album based
on the life and stories of H.P. Lovecraft. The vocalist\guitarist, Nick
Blinko, went insane after recording it and was placed in a padded cell for
a while. (I think he leaves the institution to record an album every so
often, then checks himself back in, but the cycle began with this album.)
After each song, you can hear him gibbering away maniacly, or creating
what he imagined the monsters of the Lovecraft Mythos sounded like with
his voice. (the vinyl issue has an awesome drawing of a demon playing a
violin. The cd has an interesting drawing consisting of nothing but faces.
Creepy.) It's one of the most original punk albums, a true masterpiece of
the genre.

Their first album, death church, seems to be a warm-up for cacophony,
and is worth listening to as well.

The album AFTER cacophony, Pope Adrian Psychristiatric, is even more
maddening than Delirium Cordia. Blinko's insane chantings can be heard
through the entire album, even through the actual songs (underneath his
singing). One of the most difficult recordings I've ever heard, and this is
coming from a guy who LOVES difficult albums!!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 18:25
Originally posted by Spanky Spanky wrote:

Originally posted by con safo con safo wrote:

Mr. Bungle is an amazing band. Patton is a genuis.


I would attribute a lot of Mr. Bungles uniqueness to Trey Spruance and Trevor Dunn.  Patton did some great work on California, but Patton wouldn't have made it anywhere if it hadn't been for Trey and Trevor.  I believe it was them that invited Patton to sing for them actually.

Mike Patton is still a genuis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 18:52
Originally posted by con safo con safo wrote:

Originally posted by Spanky Spanky wrote:

Originally posted by con safo con safo wrote:

Mr. Bungle is an amazing band. Patton is a genuis.


I would attribute a lot of Mr. Bungles uniqueness to Trey Spruance and Trevor Dunn.  Patton did some great work on California, but Patton wouldn't have made it anywhere if it hadn't been for Trey and Trevor.  I believe it was them that invited Patton to sing for them actually.

Mike Patton is still a genuis.


Ok, boys. Trey Spruance, Mike Patton and Trevor Dunn are together the main force of Mr. Bungle. To say "who was better than who" know isn't very clever. They were a team, they composed things together.

Dunn, Patton and Spruance are genius boys.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 19:11
Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:

Originally posted by con safo con safo wrote:

Originally posted by Spanky Spanky wrote:

Originally posted by con safo con safo wrote:

Mr. Bungle is an amazing band. Patton is a genuis.


I would attribute a lot of Mr. Bungles uniqueness to Trey Spruance and Trevor Dunn.  Patton did some great work on California, but Patton wouldn't have made it anywhere if it hadn't been for Trey and Trevor.  I believe it was them that invited Patton to sing for them actually.

Mike Patton is still a genuis.


Ok, boys. Trey Spruance, Mike Patton and Trevor Dunn are together the main force of Mr. Bungle. To say "who was better than who" know isn't very clever. They were a team, they composed things together.

Dunn, Patton and Spruance are genius boys.

Yes, i realise this.. but it doesnt make my first statement untrue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2005 at 23:06
Actually, Fantômas sucks!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2005 at 12:42
Great job of backing yourself up there Keyser.  Because of what you've said, I will no longer listen to Fantomas.  I will listen to the crap that you like.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2005 at 16:55

  

Sorry mate, I don't have anything against Fantomas. I just remembered when some fan of Fantomas said that Yes are a bunch of craps and then a flame-war began. I was only testing if it works in the opposite way and thank you, it does!  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2005 at 18:08
I think it would work that way on anyone.  But for now, lets part friends.   *shacks hand*
 



Oh yeah, and I like Yes.  Well...some of their stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2006 at 18:39
Have heard it a couple of times now, and I must say that I liked the album. I didn't got scared of the music, but it's still a very dark and creepy album. Gotta' check out their other albums and Mr Bungle!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2006 at 18:48

Originally posted by con safo con safo wrote:


You're going into surgery, but something isnt right. You can still hear the voices of people around you, but you can't speak, or move. You can feel the cold knives cutting you open, and you can feel them reaching into your insides, picking you apart. Horrifying to even think of. Now take this feeling, and put it into song.. Hard to imagine yes? Enter Fantomas - Delirium Cordia.

Did you know that this actually happens to people? I know of a case in Germany ... a woman experienced her own operation. I can understand your enthusiasm for that record, but it should be mentioned that this is actually a horrible experience, and not cool in any way.

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