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Poll Question: What album do you prefer ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2009 at 17:09
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

I find that when I listen to Brave I keep waiting for it to begin.  It seems like a looooong introduction to something.  The songs are so subtle I don't even know when they are happening!


I quite feel the same way.
Glad I'm not the only one to feel that way.  CAS all the way.  My favorite Marillion album, although I love h era stuff too, I've always found Brave very hard to get into.  I usually end up losing interest about 1/2 way through.  It would have been more of a contest had the h album been Season's End, This Strange Engine or Afraid of Sunlight (my third favorite Marillion album and my favorite with h).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2009 at 17:13
CAS is my favorite Marillion album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2009 at 17:51
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

I find that when I listen to Brave I keep waiting for it to begin.  It seems like a looooong introduction to something.  The songs are so subtle I don't even know when they are happening!


I quite feel the same way.

Well put indeed. It's been a while - a long while actually - since I last heard Brave. There are exactly two things I can remember from it right now: one is Hogarth singing "What a brave, brave girl"; the other is a really nice little piano line.

That's not to say I'd necessarily put it below CaS though... Marillion is one of those rare bands that I used to really love but my interest in which just died away at some point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2009 at 22:47
A difficult choice, but, I would choose "Brave". When I listened to this release the first time I was somewhat disappointed, however, like many of Marillion's CDs it really grew on me. "Living with the Big Lie" and "The Great Escape" are outstanding tracks - so much emotion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2009 at 01:39
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Clutching at Straws, of course!

I mean, the overlong Brave isn't even my favourite H album. That award goes to Afraid of Sunlight.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2009 at 15:07
Clutching at Straws is much better than it's reputation, but Brave is arguably the Hogarth era masterpiece.  I have to go Brave here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 11:11
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

I find that when I listen to Brave I keep waiting for it to begin.  It seems like a looooong introduction to something.  The songs are so subtle I don't even know when they are happening!


I quite feel the same way.
 
And is a good thing, you reckon? I experience the same thing, and that's what makes this such a special album the feeling you get! Can't put my finger on it...
Clutching at Straws is a fantastic album and Fish's lyrics > any othernone's lyrics, of course...Big smile
The first three songs from CaS....just to die for; on the other hand, Brave has got the marvelous Goodbye to All That.......Brave, however, is a concept album and CaS is not....So my vote goes to Brave!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 13:01
Am I the only one to find Brave one of the lesser Hogarth albums?

Clutching at Straw by miles. You can't imagine how happy I felt when I rushed out of the record store the day it was released!
Didn't feel that happy after listening though :-)
But it's a grower.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 14:13
Brave, without any hesitation at all.

Clutching at Straws is a very good album, but, by then, the tensions within the band were clearly manifesting themselves on record.

Brave is an utter masterpiece, a work of pure genius, and easily falls within my top five albums of all time. The emotion, storyline, intensity, musicianship - this one has it all, and I defy anyone not to get overcome by The Great Escape, simply the greatest piece of music ever committed to a disc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 14:44
Clutching at Straws cuz of Fish
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 14:49
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 15:37
Clutching at Straws.
 
Brave was the first and last Hogarth-era Marillion album I bought.  For me, Fish was the person that made the band special. His idiosyncratic and dramatic singing style, coupled with his poetic lyrics were so distinctive.  Post-Fish Marillion sounds kind of bland and bloodless in comparision.  Clutching at Straws was the weakest Fish-era Marillion studio album by a significant margin, but it is superior to any Hogarth album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 10:20
None of the two is their best. Clutching wins more for lyrics than for music. Brave is the last Marillion album that I have enjoyed. Afraid of Sunlight the last that I have purchased.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 10:23
Both great, though I'm more fond of Brave than Clutching at Straws, since if I want to listen to Fish I usually pick Script, while when I want to listen to Hogarth it's either Brave or Somewhere Else.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 20:30
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Marillion only started when "Seasons End" came out, anything with that drunken Scottish buffoon who thinks he's a poet should be forgotten.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 20:32
Clutching is the weakest Fish album IMO. 

Brave by a mile. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 20:48
CAS easily.
 
Never liked Brave. Very boring overall for my ears. CAS is one of my favorites however.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 03:13
Brave is a masterpiece. A wonderful story beautifully told in a very personal way. I find it deeply moving.
Clutching at straws is a very fine album indeed but it lacks that special something.
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