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    Posted: December 30 2009 at 14:57
Everyone is talking in French just to make sure that they understand each otherLOL What everyone thinks of Quebec bands that sings in English like Hamadryad, Visible Wind and others...?


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Originally posted by rdtprog

Everyone is talking in French just to make sure that they understand each otherLOL What everyone thinks of Quebec bands that sings in English like Hamadryad, Visible Wind and others...?
I wanted to make sure he understands me indeed,as he didn't get the sense of my original reply.
 
As for Hamadryad and Visible Wind well,all I got to say is that I just love them.And lets not forget Man Made who released a great jazz-rock fusion album in the early 70's.The album's sleeve has to be the sleaziest I have ever seen!
 
And Milkweed,a good sympho prog band.And Mashmakhan who would fit in as proto prog.
And Sounds of Ynspiration who'd fit that category well to.
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Originally posted by rdtprog

Everyone is talking in French just to make sure that they understand each otherLOL What everyone thinks of Quebec bands that sings in English like Hamadryad, Visible Wind and others...?
 
I do prefer when they sing in French, honestly. Because of the cultural meaning of it.
I don't mind if they sing in English, but only if they're Anglo-Québécois.
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Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag

Originally posted by rdtprog

Everyone is talking in French just to make sure that they understand each otherLOL What everyone thinks of Quebec bands that sings in English like Hamadryad, Visible Wind and others...?
 
I do prefer when they sing in French, honestly. Because of the cultural meaning of it.
I don't mind if they sing in English, but only if they're Anglo-Québécois.


Yes, but it takes a lot of courage or dedication to sing in French if you want live with your music. But it doesn't mean in the other hand that if you sing in English, your going to be successful. Music is a though business even more today. I have a lot of catching up to do with you on your knowledge of Quebec prog music. Each day i hear a new band's name from Quebec.


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The Vannelli Brothers from Montreal put out some progressive records under "Gino Vannelli".  Save the hits like "People Got ta Move", "Wheels Of Life", "I Just Wanna Stop", Gino's brother Joe did some neat synth stuff which is right up there with best of the jazz rock fusion bands in the '70s.  I don't plan on seeing Gino Vannelli in the progarchives.com listing, though. Tongue
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Originally posted by Gooner

The Vannelli Brothers from Montreal put out some progressive records under "Gino Vannelli".  Save the hits like "People Got ta Move", "Wheels Of Life", "I Just Wanna Stop", Gino's brother Joe did some neat synth stuff which is right up there with best of the jazz rock fusion bands in the '70s.  I don't plan on seeing Gino Vannelli in the progarchives.com listing, though. Tongue


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Originally posted by Gooner

The Vannelli Brothers from Montreal put out some progressive records under "Gino Vannelli".  Save the hits like "People Got ta Move", "Wheels Of Life", "I Just Wanna Stop", Gino's brother Joe did some neat synth stuff which is right up there with best of the jazz rock fusion bands in the '70s.  I don't plan on seeing Gino Vannelli in the progarchives.com listing, though. Tongue
 
 
I wouldn',t mind seeing him on PA at all...Thumbs Up
Is first six albums are filled with jazz-rock fusion of the highest caliber.Dick Morrissey of IF as well as Snatana's drummer guested on some of his albums.The album Gist of a Gemeni features the side long piece ''War suite''....
 
I think he's featured on proggnosis.Clap
 
A lot of stuff went by and skipped the prog radar in the 70's and there were lots in Québec;SOME Jacques Michel,SOME Beau Dommage,Claude Dubois,Man Made,Sinners,Zak,Mashmakhan,Dillinger,Offenbach,Sex(no joke!),Séguin....
 
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Originally posted by The Rock

Originally posted by Gooner

The Vannelli Brothers from Montreal put out some progressive records under "Gino Vannelli".  Save the hits like "People Got ta Move", "Wheels Of Life", "I Just Wanna Stop", Gino's brother Joe did some neat synth stuff which is right up there with best of the jazz rock fusion bands in the '70s.  I don't plan on seeing Gino Vannelli in the progarchives.com listing, though. Tongue
 
 
I wouldn',t mind seeing him on PA at all...Thumbs Up
Is first six albums are filled with jazz-rock fusion of the highest caliber.Dick Morrissey of IF as well as Snatana's drummer guested on some of his albums.The album Gist of a Gemeni features the side long piece ''War suite''....
 
I think he's featured on proggnosis.Clap
 
A lot of stuff went by and skipped the prog radar in the 70's and there were lots in Québec;SOME Jacques Michel,SOME Beau Dommage,Claude Dubois,Man Made,Sinners,Zak,Mashmakhan,Dillinger,Offenbach,Sex(no joke!),Séguin....
 
All we need to d is open our minds and ....ears!Sleepy
 
I'd never consider Dubois progressive....
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Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag

Originally posted by The Rock

Originally posted by Gooner

The Vannelli Brothers from Montreal put out some progressive records under "Gino Vannelli".  Save the hits like "People Got ta Move", "Wheels Of Life", "I Just Wanna Stop", Gino's brother Joe did some neat synth stuff which is right up there with best of the jazz rock fusion bands in the '70s.  I don't plan on seeing Gino Vannelli in the progarchives.com listing, though. Tongue
 
 
I wouldn',t mind seeing him on PA at all...Thumbs Up
Is first six albums are filled with jazz-rock fusion of the highest caliber.Dick Morrissey of IF as well as Snatana's drummer guested on some of his albums.The album Gist of a Gemeni features the side long piece ''War suite''....
 
I think he's featured on proggnosis.Clap
 
A lot of stuff went by and skipped the prog radar in the 70's and there were lots in Québec;SOME Jacques Michel,SOME Beau Dommage,Claude Dubois,Man Made,Sinners,Zak,Mashmakhan,Dillinger,Offenbach,Sex(no joke!),Séguin....
 
All we need to d is open our minds and ....ears!Sleepy
 
I'd never consider Dubois progressive....
A couple of tracks on his ''Fables d'espace'' are definately of prog nature.The album was produced at Todd Rundgren's Bearsville studios with many of Rundgrens musicians(Utopia).
 
That's why I said SOME.....not all.
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What about Frank Marino man! He play in our schiool man! Frank nieces go to my school man ! Frank sign autographs for kids man! Frank da Jimi Hendrix of K-Bec man!Frank he da man! MAN! Watch Frank on videos man!



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Mahogany Rush IV definetely is a prog album.So was is return album(cant remember the title) in 2001.
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Very progressive Frank. 


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I think it's time for three new presentations, now...
 
Wondeur Brass biography
Wondeur Brass is the first musical (Justine being their second and Les Poules their third) project by Joane Hétu, Diane Labrosse and Danielle Roger. A particularity of this band is that it was composed of nine members, all women. It is probably Hétu / Labrosse / Roger?s most important. Under that name, they recorded three albums and two of them have been re-issued. Parano (never re-issued) in 1982, rAVIr in 1985 and Simoneda, reine des esclaves in 1988. At this period, they had already toured in Europe. Their first time on this other continent was in 1984, at the international congress ?Women & Music? in Paris. They would return to that congress every year until 1990. They also toured in Switzerland, in Germany, in Yougoslavia, in Belgium and in the United Kingdom.
They brought a new vision to the eighties poplar music. Their music conserved a simple, sometimes rudimentary and even almost homemade. They didn?t fear improvisation and experimentation, though.

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Justine biography
Justine is an avant-garde band that was founded in Montréal (Québec), Canada. It is the second musical project of Joane Hétu, Diane Labrosse and Danielle Roger (the first being Wondeur Brass and the third, Les Poules). They recorded two albums in the nineties, (Suite) and Languages fantastiques. At that period, they already toured in Europe (France, Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Yougoslavia and United Kingdom) and in the United States of America with their first band, Wondeur Brass, wich I consider the most important band of the "trilogy".

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Les Poules
Les Poules is Joane Hétu, Diane Labrosse and Danielle Roger’s third and last musical project. They have started making music under this name in 1986, with their album Les contes de l’amère loi, after which they were called Wondeur Brass again for another album, and Justine for two albums in the nineties. In 2002, they started making music again with a new album named Prairie orange and another album in 2008, Phénix.
 
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Interesting fact: Danielle Roger, of these three bands, made some albums with Fred Frith of Henry Cow.
 
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great stuff Gabriel
 
I threw in a few reviews to beef it up.....
 
 
Originally posted by rdtprog

Originally posted by Gooner

The Vannelli Brothers from Montreal put out some progressive records under "Gino Vannelli".  Save the hits like "People Got ta Move", "Wheels Of Life", "I Just Wanna Stop", Gino's brother Joe did some neat synth stuff which is right up there with best of the jazz rock fusion bands in the '70s.  I don't plan on seeing Gino Vannelli in the progarchives.com listing, though. Tongue


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I know this sounds preposterous, but he's got a point...... I can't help but thinking to the commercial Vanelli..... but I know he's got a few prog-related albums....
 
One idea is to include both brothers' music in the same slot (like for the Bregent brothers)..... so it wouldn't appear as Gino Vanelli.
 
Mahogany Rush >>> I'm toying with the idea (Hendrix and a lot of psych rock are in, right???)
 
Still waithing for answers about Offenbach (prog-related), Peloquin Sauvageau (Psych/space said noConfused..... and sent it to RIO/Avant) and Les Champignons(psych)
 
 
Nebu , Sex and Av'nir are maybe in the works in the next few months
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Believe it or not Gino Vanelli has a degree in composition from McGill University and is also an accomplished jazz drummer. His Dad was a big band singer and his mother sang professionally as well. As much as I like his  jazzy pop songs You Gotta Move, I just Wanna Stop ( even saw him once ! ) I really think we would be clutching at straws to include him here. Really. He is still going with various projects and the last I heard he was living somewhere in Holland. 

But Frank was a god when we were kids. Saw him many times. The Canadian Hendrix. I think if we're going to include Hendrix here then there's really no excuse for not  including Frank. But then again, playing the devil's advocate, I consider many of the additions here questionable including Hendrix so I guess that rules out Frank. Frank is in a world of his own really with his groovin cool music anyway Anyone who's interested, most of his albums can be streamed from  www.mahoganyrush.com.

I guess his 2000 album Eye Of The Storm can be considered a bit proggy but there are no keyboards Shocked ! 









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Kaos moon's 1994 "After the Storm" is one of my faves, as is Daniel Gauthier's "Above the Storm" from 2001.  See a pattern?

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Kaos moon's 1994 "After the Storm" is one of my faves, as is Daniel Gauthier's "Above the Storm" from 2001.  See a pattern?



Yes i see the pattern! About Kaos Moon, they made a second cd with shorter songs but very good melodies : "The Circle of Madness". Daniel Gauthier is also very good!


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I took advantage of the ProgQuebec.com label offering over the holidays(5 CDs for $100.00...shipping covered) to discover CONVENTUM.  These guys are a treasure...sort of like a pleasant surprise when you discover a lost treasure like PIcchio Dal Pozzo or Von Zamla.  That sort of thing.  Very underrated and well worth checking out.  The album by Contraction was a pleasant surprise as well("La Bourse Ou La Vie")...and L'Orchestre Sympathique"(L'OS).  Great place to sample these artists:
 
 
...and if the "holiday special" is still available, take advantage of it because these CDs are generally very expensive in the shops.
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Originally posted by Gooner

I took advantage of the ProgQuebec.com label offering over the holidays(5 CDs for $100.00...shipping covered) to discover CONVENTUM.  These guys are a treasure...sort of like a pleasant surprise when you discover a lost treasure like PIcchio Dal Pozzo or Von Zamla.  That sort of thing.  Very underrated and well worth checking out.  The album by Contraction was a pleasant surprise as well("La Bourse Ou La Vie")...and L'Orchestre Sympathique"(L'OS).  Great place to sample these artists:
 
 
...and if the "holiday special" is still available, take advantage of it because these CDs are generally very expensive in the shops.
 
Conventum will be my next presentation, they're in my top five favorite bands from Québec.
I know it's in Folk-Prog here but I see it more as Avant, personally.
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