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Topic: Do you like this Cinema Show cover?
Posted: May 19 2005 at 21:42

The Flower Kings - The Cinema Show

Seems pretty straightforward to me, but I like it anyway.

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Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:01

Not bad at all.

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Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:07

God-awful. Frost (the Genesis band I fronted in the late 70s) did it much better than this. Even Paperlate (my most recent Genesis cover band) was better than this.

The vocals are absolutely terrible; I cannot stand his voice. And where is all the great guitar in the first half? Indeed, where is any guitar in the first half? Also, they turn the bridge ("take a little trip back") into a quasi-pop song. Yuck! And almost all the great transitions - of which there are many, due to the length of the song - are either missing or totally twee.

I never liked Flower Kings, and now I have another reason not to. This is not even as good as the Genesis covers by Transatlantic (of which Stolt is a member), which themselves are not "great," but at least much better than this!

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Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:20

If you want good Genesis covers, buy the album "The River of Constant Changes", this is the song list:

1. CD 1
2. Dusk - Algebra
3. Can-Utility And The Coastliners - Decode
4. The Carpet Crawlers - Notturno Concertante
5. Living Forever - Moongarden
6. Time Table - Lincoln Veronese
7. Blood On The Rooftops - Queen Of Maybe
8. Lilywhite Lilith - Art And Illusion
9. Harlequin - Finisterre
10. Ravine - T.M.A.
11. The Day The Light Went Out - Legend
12. Am I Very Wrong? A Place To Call My Own - Nostalgia
13. Twilight Alehouse - Men Of Lake
14. The Knife - Germinale
15. The Lamia - The Ancient Veil
16. CD 2
17. Horizons - Max Michieletto
18. Looking For Someone - Graziano Romani
19. The Light Dies Down On Broadway - Dracma
20. Entangled - Submarine Silence
21. Watcher Of The Skies - Seconds Out
22. Hairless Heart - Mysia
23. Dancing With The Moonlight Knight - Mirage
24. White Mountain - Evolution
25. No Son Of Mine - Final Conflict
26. In The Rapids - Irrgarten
27. Wot Gorilla - Paul Ward
28. Afterglow - Unicorn
29. The Chamber Of 32 Doors - Galahad

The bands are from Spain, England, Sweden but specially from Italy and mostly unknown except Galahad, Finisterre, Notturno Concertante and Moongarden.

Even Living Forever by Moongarden sounds great and progressive despite being a We Can't Dance track.

I sincerely reccomend it.

Iván

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Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:21

I have to agree with manni about the vocals, the first time he chirped out cinema show i almost fell out of my chiar laughing. Yeah its pretty lame. I couldnt even hum along to it, and I love that song.

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Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:41

Yea he really didnt do a good job of emulating Gabriel.. But it was decent in its own right.

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Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:58

It was something they did to get on some Genesis tribute CD, a last-minute thing... I'm not even certain that the band played on it, it might've just been something Roine threw together over a weekend.

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Posted: May 19 2005 at 23:12

I think this was on The Fox Lies Down. I bought that tribute several years ago and sold it at the first opportunity. There are good tribute albums, but that ain't one of them.

A couple good covers, the rest stinks.

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Posted: May 19 2005 at 23:19

You're right Ben, this cover is from The Fox Lies Down, an album that really sucks, it's the worst Genesis Tribute I ever heard, especially Dancing with the Moonlit Knight by Darxtar and the terrible Your Own Special Way by John Wetton which is even worst than the already bad original version.

The best one is Los Endos by Patrick Moraz & Ronnie Ciago, completely different but outstanding.

Iván

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Posted: May 19 2005 at 23:35

Not bad. The begininning actually put me to sleep though.

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Posted: May 20 2005 at 00:18

I am a TFK fan, then my opinion could not be taken seriously, but the biggest problem for me is the end of the music, when the sound fades away... I hate this form of ending a song...

But, overall... I liked this song. And I have "The Fox Lies Down", and I agree with others guys, this tribute is very weak. But I like John Wetton's version of "Your Own Special Way".

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Posted: May 20 2005 at 01:40

I just listened to it...

I LOVE the flower kings...a great band...BUT this is awful. They cannot play the song and seem to avoid all the parts that are hard to play! Descration to me, sorry guys.

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Posted: May 20 2005 at 03:09

herbie53 wrote:

I am a TFK fan, then my opinion could not be taken seriously, but the biggest problem for me is the end of the music, when the sound fades away... I hate this form of ending a song...

I believe that's just the edited version of the song. The full song is available on a Flowerkings fan club CD I own. I don't know what you guys look for in tribute songs, but for me a bad tribute song is when it's done as a carbon copy of the original.

It's obvious this was only done as a bit of fun & shouldn't be taken seriously!

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Posted: May 20 2005 at 18:43

transend wrote:

I just listened to it...

I LOVE the flower kings...a great band...BUT this is awful. They cannot play the song and seem to avoid all the parts that are hard to play! Descration to me, sorry guys.

Totally agree, very BAD cover !
For Genesis covers, it's better buy Steve Hackett "Genesis revisited" !

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Posted: May 20 2005 at 18:50

Didn't like it. There were some alright bits but I guess this is yet another example of how modern prog can't compete with '70s prog

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Posted: May 20 2005 at 19:03

It was respectful and wasn't bad......................but nothing I would ever feel compelled to listen to again.

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Posted: May 20 2005 at 19:30

I love it, but who gives a s**t what I think? Or anyone? Really though?...No I dont love it.....I like it and thats enough for me................................

.........whatever

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Posted: May 21 2005 at 00:00

Listening to it at this moment... Now this is coming from the biggest Genesis fan, and I can be very picky at times! That having been said, I would place TFK version of the song in the category of "Nice Try"... They seem to have the desire to produce an atmosphere somewhat like the original, but tweaked and expanded on. Kinda reminds me of the Mastermind version of "The Endless Enigma"...

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Posted: May 21 2005 at 00:57

'Twas well done enow, I trow -- if I was there, I would have had fun.

These various snooty proghole nay-sayers are a trifle uptight, Man O.....\

Obviously PG and Genesis do it better, but 'tis a goodly tribute/tip o' the cap, methinks.

It's only music, folks.

Lighten up & smile -- I'll pay for the stiches....

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Posted: May 21 2005 at 01:26

ivan_2068 wrote:

If you want good Genesis covers, buy the album "The River of Constant Changes", this is the song list:

1. CD 1
2. Dusk - Algebra
3. Can-Utility And The Coastliners - Decode
4. The Carpet Crawlers - Notturno Concertante
5. Living Forever - Moongarden
6. Time Table - Lincoln Veronese
7. Blood On The Rooftops - Queen Of Maybe
8. Lilywhite Lilith - Art And Illusion
9. Harlequin - Finisterre
10. Ravine - T.M.A.
11. The Day The Light Went Out - Legend
12. Am I Very Wrong? A Place To Call My Own - Nostalgia
13. Twilight Alehouse - Men Of Lake
14. The Knife - Germinale
15. The Lamia - The Ancient Veil
16. CD 2
17. Horizons - Max Michieletto
18. Looking For Someone - Graziano Romani
19. The Light Dies Down On Broadway - Dracma
20. Entangled - Submarine Silence
21. Watcher Of The Skies - Seconds Out
22. Hairless Heart - Mysia
23. Dancing With The Moonlight Knight - Mirage
24. White Mountain - Evolution
25. No Son Of Mine - Final Conflict
26. In The Rapids - Irrgarten
27. Wot Gorilla - Paul Ward
28. Afterglow - Unicorn
29. The Chamber Of 32 Doors - Galahad

The bands are from Spain, England, Sweden but specially from Italy and mostly unknown except Galahad, Finisterre, Notturno Concertante and Moongarden.

Even Living Forever by Moongarden sounds great and progressive despite being a We Can't Dance track.

I sincerely reccomend it.

Iván

Doesn't look too bad of a list of songs, but doesn't any band on earth have the balls to do Supper's Ready or even The Musical Box? Come on now! Hell, I'd be happy sing them, for God's sake!!!! As for the CD, is it avaiable internationally or is it an import?

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