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Jake Kobrin
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Topic: Ulver Posted: February 26 2010 at 01:45 |
I'm absolutely obsessed with this band and I think that they're one of the best bands in operation at the moment. They continue to evolve and change and they have probably the most diverse discography out of any band I know of. Are there any other fans of the band out there??? Also, I finished a drawing that is in tribute to them. It's a t-shirt design and I actually gave the band the image to use if they wish to. Jake
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UMUR
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Posted: February 26 2010 at 02:14 |
That´s really cool Jake. Let us know if the band decides to use it. I´m not the most devoted fan myself but it´s hard not to have the deepest respect for a band like Ulver who push the boundaries of musical conventions with every release.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: February 26 2010 at 02:31 |
Excellent band. Loved them since I heard Theme's From....Can't remember how they got on my radar but they did and I rejoice. Like all their periods, even the black metal stuff. Would really love some new material from them.
And that is quite an exellent picture. I hope they use it.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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lucas
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Posted: February 26 2010 at 03:37 |
Jake Kobrin wrote:
they have probably the most diverse discography out of any band I know of.
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you must listen to Waltari to understand what eclectism means...(these guys can play dance, funk, black metal, pop, heavy metal, all styles on the same album...also they released one full electro-metal album and one full black/death album...at their start in the mid-eighties they didn't even play metal !!!)
I believe other black metal bands turned experimental, they are not the only ones to deny their black metal roots (they say themselves that the black metal band was "another" band)...
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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UMUR
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Posted: February 26 2010 at 04:49 |
Waltari is definitely a band I would give a yes vote to, but they´ve been rejected sometime in the past.
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lucas
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:19 |
UMUR wrote:
Waltari is definitely a band I would give a yes vote to, but they´ve been rejected sometime in the past. |
It's very eclectic, maybe more than Mr Bungle but I am not sure if they would qualify for PA.
Edited by lucas - February 27 2010 at 18:22
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:26 |
I've only heard Shadows of the Sun, but I really enjoyed that one.
Which one should I get next?
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lucas
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:33 |
^ Blood inside
The others are not rated as high.
I read that this album is in the vein of ulver's recent outputs :
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Raff
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:37 |
lucas wrote:
^Blood inside
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Excellent album indeed, if somewhat unsettling at times - though I'm sure that was the effect the band wanted to achieve.
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 20:30 |
The Quiet One wrote:
I've only heard Shadows of the Sun, but I really enjoyed that one.
Which one should I get next? |
None of their albums really sound like that album, actually there's pretty much no other album like it, but the second best "ambient" Ulver album is the Svidd Neger soundtrack. Maybe you should try that? Otherwise it's a toss up. Perdition City, Blood Inside, A Quick Fix of Melancholy, etc, they're all amazing and don't sound much like Shadows.
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angelmk
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 04:19 |
Ulver are awesome, i love them. But i wonder why they are still in Post rock subgenre. their music varies from black metal / folk rock / electronic , not much post rock there. Eclectic might be the place for them. what do you think guys of this ?
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Raff
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 07:18 |
Eclectic won't take any bands that have a metal component, so I'm afraid there is not a lot of choice.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 07:22 |
Raff wrote:
Eclectic won't take any bands that have a metal component, so I'm afraid there is not a lot of choice.
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How about King Crimson?
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Ricochet
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 07:29 |
Raff wrote:
Eclectic won't take any bands that have a metal component, so I'm afraid there is not a lot of choice.
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We'd perfectly accept music with metal components (I like to say "elements") equal to other components (whatever). We're just more reluctant of saying that a band that was metal in its first period, then became electronic/post-rock in its second period (with metal still interspersing) is eclectic. --- That being said, I remember Ulver still being under discussion for a possible move. I myself have listened just last month to Perdition City and Blood Inside for the first time, so I can't make any official statement. Maybe it's best to keep this an appreciation threads, as originally suggested.
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Raff
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 07:55 |
Rico, sorry to have put words in your mouth, but I seemed to remember that you and the others would have rather avoided taking metal-based acts on board. I was part of the team for some team, remember, so I speak out of direct experience.
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Ricochet
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 08:03 |
Raff wrote:
Rico, sorry to have put words in your mouth, but I seemed to remember that you and the others would have rather avoided taking metal-based acts on board. I was part of the team for some team, remember, so I speak out of direct experience.
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And you are correct this time. It was just the word "component" that is smaller than genres and sometimes even styles, on the scale.
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Raff
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 08:08 |
As usual, the devil is in the details !
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angelmk
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 16:30 |
Just curious, why is Eclectic only narrowed down to prog rock and not prog metal also? Couldn't metal acts be assosiated with eclectic? Ulver was a metal band, but not anymore(at least not for now) . on their last few records they totaly banished the black metal sound and adopted or invented sound of their own, a unique one. i wont's dare to classify them in any category, but if i have to, that surely won't be post rock.. and another thing, since we have eclectic prog rock, then we should incorporate also Eclectic prog metal, that will include bands that deviate from the original prog metal sound into something else ( this solution is probably unacceptable, but i realy can't see where we can move Ulver, unless we put it in Prog related, or as i said before Eclectic)
Edited by angelmk - February 28 2010 at 17:01
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moe_blunts
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 17:23 |
Ulver will always be one of my favorite bands. I read an interview that inferred they are thinking about touring the states soon. I would die happy if I ever got to see Garm doing his thang.
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Any Colour You Like
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 19:33 |
I've only got Kveldssanger at the moment. But I've heard a lot of their work, and I'm pretty impressed. And Jake, that design is awesome.
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