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Tom Ozric
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Topic: Kohntarkosz Trilogy Posted: March 14 2018 at 14:28 |
The distorted organ solo early on Side 2 of Kohntarkosz reminds me of Mike Ratledge. What a flight !!
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: March 14 2018 at 10:22 |
KA for me followed by E-Re, count me amongst those that prefer the Hhai version of K.
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
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Tapfret
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Posted: March 14 2018 at 10:07 |
Agree on KA. It eventually grew on me but the section you mention plus the section where I swear to God they are singing, "Be, Be Impossible! Feed Me a Popsicle!". But "ËR" is flawless. Seeing Vander sing Hhäi in San Francisco back in 99 just floored me. Changed me from a casual fan to a devotee. |
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 14 2018 at 05:16 |
Nothing can beat Kohntarkosz, er, at least I thought nothing could beat it, until........E-Re appeared ! K.A is excellent (bar the hallelujah section near the end, which makes me cringe), but E-Re blows me away. The ‘Zombies’ section just kills. This one, and Sl*g Tanz give their 70’s triumphs a run for their money.
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 14 2018 at 03:47 |
In that order
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someone_else
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Posted: March 14 2018 at 03:16 |
Köhntarkösz > K.A. > Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré
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Barbu
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30845 |
Posted: March 14 2018 at 02:04 |
KA, pröhbäblysz.
My favorite Kohnnetarte (and my intro to Magma) is on the live BBC 74. Edited by Barbu - March 14 2018 at 02:10 |
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Mortte
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Posted: March 11 2018 at 12:08 |
Really love these all, but when have to choose, it´s Emehntehtt-Re. Hhai in it is one big reason, but it´s so great as a whole too!
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Man With Hat
Collaborator Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166178 |
Posted: November 10 2010 at 13:28 |
KA
E-Re
K
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Bonnek
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Posted: November 10 2010 at 13:08 |
Always easy if someone saves me the trouble of voicing my opinion |
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chrijom
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Posted: November 10 2010 at 10:47 |
K.A.
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Any Colour You Like
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 15 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12294 |
Posted: November 09 2010 at 22:55 |
I only have the first, so no vote.
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
Posted: November 09 2010 at 22:53 |
Gotta be K.A.
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DJPuffyLemon
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 22:51 |
Am I the only one who think the studio version of Kohntarkosz is better than the hhai version? I used to like Hhai, but now it is just impossible for me to listen to Part 1 live without getting bored. Part 1 on studio is much better. Part 2 I'm kind of split on, but i think I am biased because after listening to part 1 live i can't concentrate on part 2 so it doesn't have the impact, but i do enjoy both a decent amount. I feel though that if that Kohntarkosz Trilogy DVD ever gets released then I'll enjoy all three versions equally.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: March 12 2010 at 09:35 |
Wow! Kohntarkosz' got the least votes? Its my favorite, by far. Just perfect. There's loads of fantastic music on both KA and E-Re but I'm having a hard time with the moments of joyous gospel feel. Especially on KA.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 11 2010 at 22:14 |
K.A.
E-Re
K
The top two are quite good, though I prefer KA for some reason. Never really had love for Köhntarkosz. I agree that the version (of the song) on Hhai is much better.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Bj-1
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Posted: March 09 2010 at 05:19 |
Köhntarkosz and K.A. followed closely by E-Re.
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uduwudu
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Posted: March 09 2010 at 02:40 |
I'd love to know the reasoning behind how one thinks one piece is better than another. This is after all progressive rock, well thought intelligent music that required considerable effort to write and record. Opinions I think should reflect that input. You can't be wrong (in like vs dislike) but I, for one, would love to know why. You don't HAVE to back up an opinion but I'd just like to know.
Of course if some says something is stated to be great or rubbish then it does HAVE to be justified. And saying "it's rubbish, 'cause I hate it" is not good enough for prog rock fans either. I just like objective depth and seek to encourage it. After all I think 90125 is a superb AOR album, well composed, played, produced but it's not favourite with me - too sweet and happy for my taste even though it's superbly done. So it's a four star album if I reviewed it but I would not want to really buy it now. That's by way of example. Back to Magma, I am familar with the first trilogy but oddly only Kohnkatosz from the live album (and ROIO vesions of the rest) but we mean official releases so these don't count. Until they get released officially that is like the Brussels 1971 jazz set. I suppose I can read the reviews but that doesn't mean I get the objectivity. I used to read the PA reviews but so many are happy fans wanting to support their childhood days (Beatle fans) or haters (Final Cut fans vs haters) that observed critique seems a bit beyond many. Not forgetting the recent Dream Theater uprisings etc. Progressive also means we listeners have responsibility to opine as thoughtfully as the music reviewed is intened. Don't worry you can say how much you feel, just say why. Tell someone who has not heard it what it is, how it's made etc. Back to Magma, I am familar with the first trilogy but oddly only Kohnkatosz from the live album (and ROIO vesions of the rest) but we mean official releases so these don't count. Until they get released officially that is like the Brussels 1971 jazz set. |
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poslednijat_colobar
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 31 2008 Location: Bulgaria Status: Offline Points: 394 |
Posted: March 07 2010 at 03:05 |
Emehnteht-Re
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Sckxyss
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 05 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1319 |
Posted: March 06 2010 at 19:01 |
I'll go with the original. Although I'll admit the performance on the live album is probably even better.
The other two are very close, though. These are probably my three favourite Magma albums. |
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