Top 250 Proto Prog & Prog Related

Interesting charts that you won't see every day:

Top 163 Proto-Prog albums (there is just 163 of them in database)

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=37&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=59&y=0#list

And now Top 250 Prog-related, this category is quite bigger, so first will be "average" P-R:

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=38&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=59&y=0

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Here is more closely examined charts, magic tricks with MIN/MAX ratings to present all P-R albums in PA database:

14 - infinity

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=38&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=14&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=59&y=0#list

6 - 13

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=38&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=6&smaxratings=13&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=59&y=0#list

3 - 5

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=38&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=3&smaxratings=5&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=59&y=0

1 - 2

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=38&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1&smaxratings=2&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=59&y=0

Dedicated to one person who likes Prog-Related a lot.

Edited by Marty McFly - March 15 2010 at 08:13

Marty, It was only while I was looking at your proto and related links that I discovered that bands/albums in these two categories aren't listed in the Top 250 albums. Why is that?

Yeah, I've never used these filters before so it has been useful in that respect. It's handy to look at some of my favourite genres (Crossover, Folk, RPI) to see where my top choices are. I think it's kinda funny that Deep Purple, Black Sabbath and Uriah Heep are all in different genres. Back in the day they were all 'heavies'.

Interesting... Prog related ruled by Queen and Zeepelin with Metallica in the top 10.... great... I'm glad that at least in the rating those albums recieve so good ratings.... As Raff said, shame that some bands that are included in other subgenres are less prog than some of the listed there... but we have to know there's a system going on and many people involved.

Yes, nice work from Marty... especially as these two categories aren't available via the sub-genre filter. So the Top 100 albums on the list aren't the top 100 on the site. Rules is rules, i guess. 

Originally posted by seventhsojourn Yes, nice work from Marty... especially as these two categories aren't available via the sub-genre filter. So the Top 100 albums on the list aren't the top 100 on the site. Rules is rules, i guess.

Nothing to do with rules at all - it's called the lesser of two evils. When I joined the site, there was no such separation, which came much later due to the close-mindedness of some people, and the great store some people set by ratings of all sorts. Unfortunately, it seems that for someone seeing some albums in the Top 100 was tantamount to having their worldly goods stolen (or something to that effect), so, to keep the peace, it was decided to remove them, and treat the two categories like a ghetto. There has also been talk of not allowing PP and PR reviews on the front page.

I think it has been shelved, for now at least. Hopefully no one will resurrect it ever again.

It's not easy to make any changes, one have to be very careful with the code, because as it's more or less "hack", it's not so friendly to me. So:

Top 250 NEW (89 onwards) Prog-Related

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=38&salbumtypes=1&syears=2010&syears=2009&syears=2008&syears=2007&syears=2006&syears=2005&syears=2004&syears=2003&syears=2002&syears=2001&syears=2000&syears=200+&syears=1999&syears=1998&syears=1997&syears=1996&syears=1995&syears=1994&syears=1993&syears=1992&syears=1991&syears=1990&syears=1989&scountries=&sminratings=1&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=87&y=17#list

The least I can do for Prog-Related. Bringing them more closely to people here. Except reviewing album, something that I also like.

<<<Juan >>> You know that there are Prog purists. I somehow lost my sense for enjoying "normal" metal over last two years. It just happened. I used to like electronic (DJ Tiesto melodic mixes, even techno) few years ago. And where am I now :) Some people can't stand P-R, or even bands that are rumored to cause disturbance in time and space /// erm, I meant in PA. I don't think so, but who knows for sure.

<<< Raff >>> My plan is simple. If they already are here, I want to promote them. No matter if it means "hidden" Wonderland of Prog-related, or exotic bands, I want to do it. I somehow feel for the underdogs. Want to give them fair chance and at least show them in my lists here on forums and on main page when reviewing them. 

Anyway, it's very interesting to experience so many different kinds of Prog music from all around the world. Not endless US/UK ones. Even I like them too.

<<< Gooner >>> Deserved place, even I quite understand Queen's place.

<<< Chris >>> I like to play with controls, explore it all and see results, enjoy them and share them with other people. Of course, you don't have to be programmer (I'm not, I don't understand it at all), but basics helps. You have to know what command lies where :-)

<<< Bonnek >>> I have soft spot for them, but also for most of these bands.

<<< everyone>>> It's strange, but it seems like I know much more of Prog-Related bands, than those in Top 250 of all time PA

Edited by Marty McFly - March 17 2010 at 17:56

Nice lists, had never checked those PP and PR top albums, some great music there

The site works very well with the so-called ghetto of Proto-prog and prog-related. PA's Top 100 on the front page is what people visiting the site first meet, and PA would loose credibility as a "serious" site if they were met with Beatles, Metallica and Queen in the top 10.