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    Posted: March 15 2010 at 13:27
Hello, i started this thread because i couldn't find anything about beefheart in this forum, so what do you think of Captain Beefheart? What's your favourite album?
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I've known Beefheart for a while, but haven't collected too many of his albums.  I've got Doc At The Radar Station, Safe As Milk, and Troutmask Replica.  That's about the order I like them. 

Also Bongo Fury, which is more of a Zappa album.

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Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica is one of my favorite albums of all time and is something really special to me.

I have a few other albums which are solid as well, just not quite to that same level. Great artist though.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Evolver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2010 at 14:09
Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller) is my favorite.
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Trout Mask Replica is pure brilliance.
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Is it ?
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Yes.
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I need to listen again, I got bored half way through TMR the first time, haven't listened again.
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Originally posted by Vompatti

Trout Mask Replica is pure brilliance.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote aapatsos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2010 at 15:19
Good timing, their debut just arrived in the post - I am listening now, quite enjoyable and a bit odd... mainly rock 'n roll stuff but in a bizarre way (?) - that is how I would describe it for the time being

however, I have never listened to CB before, so I will need some time to form an opinion
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I keep TMR around more as a novelty.  I listen to a lot of weird stuff, but it never clicked with me.
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If you like weird, experimental and "music done in a way you've never heard before", this artist is perfect.
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Interesting stuff, but definitely an acquired taste.
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I'm not sure what is meant by acquired taste, but if it means something like: "it has to grow on you / you have to have certain need, experimentation in your music taste / it's probably not love on first sight and it will take time", then it's OK. 

People warned me that Gentle Giant can be hard to get into, but except one listen I had two years ago (and I didn't like it), when I run through their first four albums recently, I loved it instantly. Same with VdGG, King Crimson.

And these artists are names that people usually warn about, so that's strange. I "like" some of these dangerous ones and dislike others ? Well, that's one's taste I suppose :-)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Nightfly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2010 at 14:41
I like Clear Spot the best, which is also probably his most accessible.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zappaholic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2010 at 19:29
Originally posted by Marty McFly

I'm not sure what is meant by acquired taste, but if it means something like: "it has to grow on you / you have to have certain need, experimentation in your music taste / it's probably not love on first sight and it will take time", then it's OK.

 
Yup, that's pretty much it.
 
 
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I only have Trout Mask Replica, and after 3 or 4 listens I'm not that impressed. I sense that it's a grower, though.

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The early albums (Safe As Milk, Mirror Man Sessions) are pretty straightforward (for the times).  TMR is to me brilliant and not.  I've never listed to the whole thing in one sitting.  There are many good songs lurking in there.  I wish Lick Off My Decals was available...maybe it is now, I forget to check.  What I've heard of it is much like TMR, but accessible (and I use the term loosely).
 
The Spotlight Kid and Clear Spot used to be available on a single disc, a bargain if there ever was one.  These are a bit more commercial, but still very good.  A couple albums followed that are near garbage.  Then came the mighty Bat Chain Puller.  I've only heard a couple songs from Doc .
 
As Slarti sez, there's the stuff with Zappa, Bongo Fury being the best known.  But of course the Cap'n is there on Hot Rats, and unless my memory is completely shot, he sings The Torture Never Stops on one of the YCDTOSA albums.
 
My favorites...Clear Spot and The Spotlight Kid.  Beefheart probably hates these, but songs like Click Clack and Big Eyed Beans from Venus don't exactly grow on trees, then or now.  They have a definite more commercial bent, but underneath the sheen retain the good madness of TMR in their own way.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote thellama73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2010 at 21:15
I love beefheart! Mirror man is probably my favorite, but Safe as Milk and Trout Mask are also incredible. I also really like Clear Spot and The Spotlight Kid. I am less enamored with Doc at the Radar Station and Ice Cream For Crow than many seem to be.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MovingPictures07 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2010 at 21:34
Originally posted by J-Man

I only have Trout Mask Replica, and after 3 or 4 listens I'm not that impressed. I sense that it's a grower, though.


It's definitely a grower.
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