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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2010 at 15:17
Scylla was the dangerous rock on the Italian coast, opposite the whirlpool Charybdis. Therefore if you were between Scylla and Charybdis you faced danger on either side.
 
Odysseus and also the Argonauts had to sail past the whirlpool in the straits of Messina opposite the sea-monster. Later legends by Ovid had her turned to a rock. There is a rock that juts into the sea on the Calabrian coast called scilla. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2010 at 15:53
^thanks for the explenation Embarrassed verry kinde im a buff for greek mythology (and mythology in general) and ive seen a verry good film about Odysseus, from 87. good film, bad graphics Dead great epic length
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2010 at 17:39
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Because octopi are intelligent, flexible, and can noodle on eight different instruments at the same time, just like all our favorite Prog bands.  Big smile

Technically I'd say only 4 instruments, as most require two hands to play correctly. 
Depends on the technique and the instrument.  Let's split the difference and say six instruments.  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2010 at 20:21

An octopus appears in Dream Theater's Score DVD, during the Octavarium animation.

Again, an octopus used for the eight track of the eight album of the band. Also, 8x3=24 minutes.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2010 at 20:44
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

^thanks for the explenation Embarrassed verry kinde im a buff for greek mythology (and mythology in general) and ive seen a verry good film about Odysseus, from 87. good film, bad graphics Dead great epic length
The older one starring Kirk Douglas, called Ulysses, is more accurate to Homer's original, although you might not like the graphics in that one either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2010 at 07:42
Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


But to answer the actual question of the thread, I think a first reason is that Octopuses are very bombastic animals.
Really, who needs 8 legs?
That's like, which band needs two drummers or 2 keyboard players or 3 guitar players?
A prog band obviously.



Off topic, but are you saying that Iron Maiden is a Prog band?  Wink Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2010 at 05:59
^ I mainly added this to see who would raise to the bait Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2010 at 13:31
Originally posted by javier0889 javier0889 wrote:

An octopus appears in Dream Theater's Score DVD, during the Octavarium animation.

Again, an octopus used for the eight track of the eight album of the band. Also, 8x3=24 minutes.




omg Octavarium has probably the most mind blowing concept the band ever conceived!

the use of 8 is everywhere! more than GG's Octopus

there's also an octopus in the booklet of the album,

Score also uses the pattern of 5 and 8 used on Octavarium, particularly for the set lists.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 16:25
*Removes Cigar from mouth, exhales smoke*

Ze Anzer, you see, is obvious

Ze Octopuz is ze most virile of animals,

a bulbous sack wiz eight appendages, ze envy of any man

*spits to remove cigar taste and stamps out cigar*
*faint background noise of a forgotten Alan Parsons Project album, fading...*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 16:56
a similar discussion could be started about the ridicolous number of refernces to EGGS 
 
Egg was a British prog band.
IL Castello Delle Uova is an italian band, (uova means eggs).
L'Uovo Di Colombo is another italian band ("Columbus' Egg") and the cover features an egg.
The New Trolls Atomic System cover features an egg being hit with a hammer
The cover of Gravy Train's The Ballad Of A Peaceful Man features an egg
The last section of Supper's Ready by Genesis is called "As Sure As Eggs Is Eggs"
The cover of the first Eulenspygel album featues an egg.
The cover of Whatevershebringswesing by Kevin Ayers features many eggs, and the phrase "No Eggsplanation"
Angel's Egg is a Gong album.
Lucifer And The Egg is a song contained in the wonderful "Death May Be Your Santa Claus" album, by Second Hand.
 
LOL
 
It turns out that the subtle hidden meaning that keeps many prog lyrics together is the celebration of Easter Eggs. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 17:15
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by javier0889 javier0889 wrote:

An octopus appears in Dream Theater's Score DVD, during the Octavarium animation.

Again, an octopus used for the eight track of the eight album of the band. Also, 8x3=24 minutes.




omg Octavarium has probably the most mind blowing concept the band ever conceived!

the use of 8 is everywhere! more than GG's Octopus

there's also an octopus in the booklet of the album,

Score also uses the pattern of 5 and 8 used on Octavarium, particularly for the set lists.


Mind-blowing concept?

It's just a load of fives and eights.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 17:23
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by javier0889 javier0889 wrote:

An octopus appears in Dream Theater's Score DVD, during the Octavarium animation.

Again, an octopus used for the eight track of the eight album of the band. Also, 8x3=24 minutes.




omg Octavarium has probably the most mind blowing concept the band ever conceived!

the use of 8 is everywhere! more than GG's Octopus

there's also an octopus in the booklet of the album,

Score also uses the pattern of 5 and 8 used on Octavarium, particularly for the set lists.


Mind-blowing concept?

It's just a load of fives and eights.


You say so?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 17:38
Seen that. Read it. Remains a load of fives and eights. Problem with that theory is that when you take any of the numbers which happen to not be fives and eights, it seems a lot less impressive. Dream Theater formed in 1985, Sixtus V (1585-1590) (Sixtus the FIFTH in FIFTEEN EIGHTY FIVE). Clement VIII (1592-1605) (that's Clement the EIGHTH).... oh look, the dates and numbers don't correspond for everyone... which implies when they do, it's largely coincidence.

Note that three fingers are visible in one picture....

Surely that should be eight fingers... (I know 3+5 is eight, but the eight is never constructed from the 5 elsewhere...).

I mean, I don't particularly object to it, but to consider a load of coincidence and some minor engineering to fit that a mind-blowing concept is credulous to crazy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 19:08
i was talking about the song. i should have mentioned that...

it kinda works for the whole album, but it doesnt help when the fourth song isnt that good.

i do, however, love the album! i know plenty here agree with me


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 19:54

I like Octavarium too! It's more like a sentimental thing, because with that album I discovered DT.


Back on topic, there's a chilean prog band called Octopus.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 21:23
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

i was talking about the song. i should have mentioned that...

it kinda works for the whole album, but it doesnt help when the fourth song isnt that good.

i do, however, love the album! i know plenty here agree with me


Still, that concept 'mind-blowing'?

Hm. different strokes, different folks etc. etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 21:52
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

i was talking about the song. i should have mentioned that...

it kinda works for the whole album, but it doesnt help when the fourth song isnt that good.

i do, however, love the album! i know plenty here agree with me


Still, that concept 'mind-blowing'?

Hm. different strokes, different folks etc. etc.


i guess so
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 23:11
I'm surprised there hasn't been a prog band named "Kraken" yet.

...hold that thought.  I claim all rights to that name.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 06:25
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

^thanks for the explenation Embarrassed verry kinde im a buff for greek mythology (and mythology in general) and ive seen a verry good film about Odysseus, from 87. good film, bad graphics Dead great epic length
The older one starring Kirk Douglas, called Ulysses, is more accurate to Homer's original, although you might not like the graphics in that one either.


the Skylla in the version I saw was so bad that I thought "I could have made a better one in clay, paint, and lenin, cotton and wool"
I like the Kraken in Dead mans Chest, that mouth is seriously big
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 11:10
Surprised none of you philistines have mention Amplifier's forthcoming colossus of an album entitled "The Octopus".



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJhkOXmSATs
And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good


<a href="www.last.fm/user/jonzo67" targe
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