Lady Gaga

Completely disagree (100%) but only know 1% of her material. Her persona, pretentious costumes and lip-syncing escapades with gay dancers is disgusting and unartistical and utterly commercial.

What I've heard of her music is unoriginal, grating and full of contempt for the listener.

It can be encapsulated in this smilie equation:

Gaga=

I don't hate Lady Gaga as much as I do some other pop, that's gotta count for something, right?

I'm with you, man. I have gone on record a bunch of times on this forum expressing admiration for GaGa. I think she has a real flair for writing catchy songs, which is a really difficult thing to do well, and she doesn't seem to be the trashy, disgusting role model that a lot of young pop singers are. She actually seems pretty centered.

Miss Germanotta is pop music's greatest troll (I mean in the internet sense of the word).  She's gaming the system for all she can, and is having a big laugh at both her fans and her detractors.  

To all who challenge me:

Peter Gabriel and Fish do not lip-sync, they do not dress as universes and need help exiting limos, they did not do it for money (they could and in Gabriel's case would do it to a greater degree doing the opposite), they were doing it to express the music, which was artistical prog, not stupid madonna like pop. The slipperman says something to me, GAY DANCERS AND FISH NET DON'T.

All modern pop is written by old bald men and engineered in the studio aimed at the lowest denominator- Genesis and Marillion were aimed at expanding the boundaries in an original and authentic way (less for Marillion ) they addressed important issues (look at Back In NYC or the even better life force of He Knows You Know or anything from Clutching at Straws).

Lady GaGa by positioning herself as the "Princess of Pop" is balancing herself atop a cesspool. I don't care how much glitter she uses to try to hide it.

I'll stick to searching for meaningful Music and when I can't find it, I'll go for skilled works of the past like 80s AOR and Experimental sh*t.

I have come. I have spoken. I have came.

btw I refuse to believe GuyGuy does not use auto-tune and that she writes her own material


Edited by RoyFairbank - May 07 2010 at 22:00

RoyFairbank wrote: I have come. I have spoken. I have came.

RoyFairbank wrote: To all who challenge me: Peter Gabriel and Fish do not lip-sync, they do not dress as universes and need help exiting limos, they did not do it for money (they could and in Gabriel's case would do it to a greater degree doing the opposite), they were doing it to express the music, which was artistical prog, not stupid madonna like pop. The slipperman says something to me, GAY DANCERS AND FISH NET DON'T. All modern pop is written by old bald men and engineered in the studio aimed at the lowest denominator- Genesis and Marillion were aimed at expanding the boundaries in an original and authentic way (less for Marillion ) they addressed important issues (look at Back In NYC or the even better life force of He Knows You Know or anything from Clutching at Straws). Lady GaGa by positioning herself as the "Princess of Pop" is balancing herself atop a cesspool. I don't care how much glitter she uses to try to hide it. I'll stick to searching for meaningful Music and when I can't find it, I'll go for skilled works of the past like 80s AOR and Experimental sh*t. I have come. I have spoken. I have came. btw I refuse to believe GuyGuy does not use auto-tune and that she writes her own material

gottagetintogetout wrote: RoyFairbank wrote: To all who challenge me: Peter Gabriel and Fish do not lip-sync, they do not dress as universes and need help exiting limos, they did not do it for money (they could and in Gabriel's case would do it to a greater degree doing the opposite), they were doing it to express the music, which was artistical prog, not stupid madonna like pop. The slipperman says something to me, GAY DANCERS AND FISH NET DON'T. All modern pop is written by old bald men and engineered in the studio aimed at the lowest denominator- Genesis and Marillion were aimed at expanding the boundaries in an original and authentic way (less for Marillion ) they addressed important issues (look at Back In NYC or the even better life force of He Knows You Know or anything from Clutching at Straws). Lady GaGa by positioning herself as the "Princess of Pop" is balancing herself atop a cesspool. I don't care how much glitter she uses to try to hide it. I'll stick to searching for meaningful Music and when I can't find it, I'll go for skilled works of the past like 80s AOR and Experimental sh*t. I have come. I have spoken. I have came. btw I refuse to believe GuyGuy does not use auto-tune and that she writes her own material Lady Gaga also doesn't lip-synch either.  She's in a completely different universe than Britney Spears and the other shallow pop stars you pigeon-hole her into, and I would take her music over 80's AOR any day.   I can't believe that I feel so adamantly about defending Lady Gaga (I really am not a fan,) but I think that some of your attacks are a bit misguided, especially considering you've admitted to only hearing 1% of her music.

My references to 80s AOR and listening to 1% of her music are tongue-in-cheek, because I realize the humor of my position but my criticism stands:

For instance, I just proved she doesn't write her own material. We all know from looking at Prog credits what what I posted means.

She almost certainly lip-syncs (on American Idol she did), and absolutely absolutely uses auto-tune and related programs. She's well handled, well created, she's supposed to be "edgy" and aims at a slighty older audience but other than that there is no difference from her and any other Pop Tart


Edited by RoyFairbank - May 07 2010 at 22:20

RoyFairbank wrote: For instance, I just proved she doesn't write her own material. We all know from looking at Prog credits what what I posted means.

It's fine that you don't believe she writes any of her own music, but you have an awfully strange definition of "proof."

Someone dying their hair for a character kills the music for you?  You have a very strange view on musical quality.