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Poll Question: Electric Light Orchestra or Queen?
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    Posted: August 14 2011 at 13:17
As much as I'm not really into ELO, I've heard a large portion of their music and never disliked any of it, though it's too poppy to be something I'd ever choose.  However, I really don't care for anything I've heard by Queen.  Their single most impact on my life is the Bohemian Rhapsody scene in Wayne's World.  And I agree, Jeff Lynne's writing strikes me as superior to Freddy Mercury's, just so much more going on.  

Also Jeff Lynne's voice destroys me....the Rain is Falling.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote giselle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2011 at 15:06
Originally posted by TheLionOfPrague

Originally posted by giselle

I prefer ELO because Jeff Lynne is much superior songwriter to anything anyone in Queen can produce, and even though Queen are the superior musicians and a better group.

Jeff Lynne is a great songwriter, but not better  than Freddie.



Freddie was a great singer and showman, but he couldn't write a song to save his life (!); the 'songs' he did write were amazingly old-fashioned (and camp!) for someone from a supposedly-heavy Rock group. Even the best piece he ever did - parts of 'Bohemian Rhapsody' - were snatches of good melody (but with meaningless lyrics) interspersed with trivial/mundane musical interludes heavily laced with bad taste which only a group peddling excess as a norm could get away with. So no, in my opinion Freddie wasn't even in the first league of songwriters, though he certainly had plenty going for him in other ways.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote himtroy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2011 at 15:30
^^I agree, and showmanship has never been something I've cared about.  Stop jumping around and play your instrument better
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Not much into ELO, so no vote. 

Anyway, Queen's style was anticipated by Sparks who did it WITHOUT the pastiche approach that Queen favoured in not only Bohemian..but many other well regarded songs like March of the Black Queen and went for 3-4 minute slabs of smart pop/rock instead.  Sparks also tried many more things so it's not possible for me to hold Queen's compositional skills in the same high regard as I would have before.  Yeah, mainly about the flamboyance of Mercury and May. And as much as I like Freddie's singing, he's NOT my favourite rock singer and is pretty weak when it comes to truly melancholic moments.  His singing on the first section of Bohemian is overwrought but it works because of the band's generally campy style of music.  
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Of course Queen will win. I doubt anyone expects otherwise. I wholly prefer ELO, though. For one, Lynne did things with pop melodies that Freddie would've shat his panties over. Lynne did things with production. It's all opinions. I dunno why I'm wasting my time when all I'll do is contradict my stupid words, later. 
He gave her his town house and his racing horses. Each meal she ate was a dozen courses. She had a million dollars worth of nickels and dimes. She sat around and counted them all a million times.
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I'd pick virtually any musical act over ELO.  So, yeah.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2011 at 22:43
Originally posted by Padraic

I'd pick virtually any musical act over ELO.  So, yeah.


As Epignosis, I say, "Yay!"

As an ELO fan, I say Pat is foolish and needs to revisit ELO.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Warthur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2011 at 05:29
Put me down for Queen. ELO took an album or two to get up to speed, and then their classic period is comparatively brief; Queen had their sound nailed down straight out of the gate and put out more top-flight albums than ELO ever did, in my book.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Padraic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2011 at 15:03
Originally posted by Epignosis

Originally posted by Padraic

I'd pick virtually any musical act over ELO.  So, yeah.


As Epignosis, I say, "Yay!"

As an ELO fan, I say Pat is foolish and needs to revisit ELO.


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Originally posted by giselle

Originally posted by TheLionOfPrague

Originally posted by giselle

I prefer ELO because Jeff Lynne is much superior songwriter to anything anyone in Queen can produce, and even though Queen are the superior musicians and a better group.

Jeff Lynne is a great songwriter, but not better  than Freddie.



Freddie was a great singer and showman, but he couldn't write a song to save his life (!); the 'songs' he did write were amazingly old-fashioned (and camp!) for someone from a supposedly-heavy Rock group. Even the best piece he ever did - parts of 'Bohemian Rhapsody' - were snatches of good melody (but with meaningless lyrics) interspersed with trivial/mundane musical interludes heavily laced with bad taste which only a group peddling excess as a norm could get away with. So no, in my opinion Freddie wasn't even in the first league of songwriters, though he certainly had plenty going for him in other ways.

Freddie wasn't in the first league of songwriters??

"Bohemian Rhapsody", "The March Of The Black Queen", "Millonaire Waltz". With those three songs, he is better than most musicians.

And "We Are The Champions", "My Fary King", "Ogre Battle", "Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy", "Bycycle Race", "Killer Queen", "The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke", etc..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Alitare Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2011 at 16:41
But Lynne had Bluebird is Dead, Turn to Stone, Do Ya, Evil Woman, Telephone Line, Shangri-La, Tightrope, Fire on High, Sweet Talkin' Woman, Mr. Blue Sky, etc. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote giselle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2011 at 02:54

Queen made excellent recordings with high levels of performance, but song quality was not of the same standard, otherwise it would have been even better than it was. ELO has many of those qualities too, but the songs are just as  good. Recording skills and writing skills are two different things, one can make up for deficiencies in the other, but of course, it's best when the two meet in harmony.

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Except ELO 2, I really like all their albums 1971-1981.

Queen, well I do love their second album, and a track here and there.
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ELO.

Queen is overrated, only handful of above average songs.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rogerthat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2011 at 04:07
Originally posted by TheLionOfPrague


"Bohemian Rhapsody", "The March Of The Black Queen", "Millonaire Waltz". With those three songs, he is better than most musicians.

 
As SONGS, they certainly aren't in THAT exalted company. I'd only make such a statement about a band like Beatles and they were easily far superior masters of songwriting than Queen (or most rock bands for that matter).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2011 at 07:12
Queen. ELO has nothing comparable to the three consecutive albums Queen II, Shear Heart Attack and A Night at the Opera. Queen was simply a better rock band than ELO,
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I like Queen but I love ELO!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Alitare Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2011 at 10:09
Originally posted by The Dark Elf

Queen. ELO has nothing comparable to the three consecutive albums Queen II, Shear Heart Attack and A Night at the Opera. Queen was simply a better rock band than ELO,

But ELO were a MUCH better pop band, and that's more important to me these days. I don't give a sh*t how fast or loud Brian May's murky little guitar tone is. When it came to writing melodies, Mercury didn't hold a candle to Lynne. And these days, with all them damn Kansas and Camel and Supertramp and Uriah Heep and Deep Purp and blah blah blah blah doing the 'art ROCK' thing, I stop giving a sh*t really early on.
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