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    Posted: June 04 2010 at 20:02

In your opinion, what would be a short list of Peart's shining moments, both as a lyricist and as a drummer?

 
Lyrically: All of "2112" (minus "A Passage"...and yes, I'm aware he didn't write ALL the lyrics to the record) through to "Signals" and "Vapor Trails". 
 
Musically, it'd have to be his drum solos on the live records.
 
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He's always shinning...Wink
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For me his lyrics are a bit too right-wing objectivist. 'The Trees' is absurd, and very badly thought through.  As a drummer I would say Red Sector A, YYZ, Natural Science & 2112.
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Many many highlights. I think his finest lyrical moment is The Pass - I just love that song. As regards drumming, Mystic Rhythms, a great track.

Progist's comments about right wing objectivist reminds me of the old NME controversy. When 2112 was released, the music rag accused him & Rush of being fascists. They haven't spoken to them in disgust since.


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As a drummer..

Jacobs Ladder
Xanadu
La Villa Strangiato
Freewill (especially during the middle section)

There are many...

As a lyricist..

Different Strings
Subdivisions
Ghost of a chance
Something for nothing (yes, I know it's one of his contraversial 'objectivist' lyrics that some people hate, but on a more simplistic level I think they ring true..)

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I'm only really familiar with the earlier Rush stuff....on reflection, I'd say the 'Signals' or '2112' albums.
La Villa Strangiato is a MF !!!!! 
I also love the stuff he did with Allan Holdsworth.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:



Progist's comments about right wing objectivist reminds me of the old NME controversy. When 2112 was released, the music rag accused him & Rush of being fascists. They haven't spoken to them in disgust since.

Why the hell did they think that? o_O

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Originally posted by Kestrel Kestrel wrote:

 
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:



Progist's comments about right wing objectivist reminds me of the old NME controversy. When 2112 was released, the music rag accused him & Rush of being fascists. They haven't spoken to them in disgust since.

Why the hell did they think that? o_O

The insignia they use always make me thinks of Nazism tbh. When I was at school I knew a Rush fan who was true blue right wing conservative (and Maggie Thatcher fan). Rush were his favourite band partly because he believed they were inspired by right wing thinking (Ayn Rand was a name that cropped up) . Right wing views and fascism are not a million miles apart I suppose.
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On topic drumming wise:
YYZ
Animate
La Villa Strangiatio
The Big Money
Overture
Tom Sawyer
 
Lyrically:
Freewill
Tom Sawyer
Subdivisions
Animate
Roll The Bones
Red Sector A
The Analog Kid
...just a few off the top of my head


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Kestrel Kestrel wrote:

 
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Progist's comments about right wing objectivist reminds me of the old NME controversy. When 2112 was released, the music rag accused him & Rush of being fascists. They haven't spoken to them in disgust since.


Why the hell did they think that? o_O



The insignia they use always make me thinks of Nazism tbh. When I was at school I knew a Rush fan who was true blue right wing conservative (and Maggie Thatcher fan). Rush were his favourite band partly because he believed they were inspired by right wing thinking (Ayn Rand was a name that cropped up) . Right wing views and fascism are not a million miles apart I suppose.


I think Peart has chilled a little with age. He distances himself from Rand these days as far as I'm aware.
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Regardless of his intolerable levels of right-wing objectivism (gosh the fascism just oozes out of the liner notes...I can't even pick up my Rush jewelcases anymore or I get this disgusting, sticky Nazi-juice all over my fingers), he is one of my favorite drummers. I mean, ya just can't beat:
 
La Villa Strangiato
Natural Science
Cygnus X-1 (both books)
 
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How to pick a few from such a body of work??

As a drummer:

Xanadu
Red Barchetta
YYZ
La Villa Strangiato

As lyricist:

Subdivisions
Red Sector A
The Trees

.... like trying to pick the best bits from the Bible

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Hmm, as my first post on this website... I'm going to limit myself to three well thought out opinions per.

Drummer:
Subdivisions (Seems as if this song is too simple, but listen to the drumming. Complex all the way through.)
Xanadu (Who else could incorporate all those chimes, wood blocks, and bells in one song? Nevermind Dream Theater's 'Trail of Tears,' since Portnoy obviously stole the idea from Peart.)
Scars (Complex African-based beat, really sounds amazing, and was not over-dubbed. Even Neil has stated the significance of this drum piece.)

Lyrically:
Entre Nous (Beautiful lyrics. I showed them to my girlfriend, and she, who usually likes modern bands, was fascinated at how beautiful they were.)
Everyday Glory (Especially at the end where '...Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try...' that part, it gives me shivers. It again, is so beautiful.)
Ghost Rider (Neil wrote these about his... terrible, to say the least, experiences. The message it brings across is TOO strong for words, yet Neil is able to get the feelings out, as well as anyone ever could.)

God, I love Rush. Haha :)

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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Progist's comments about right wing objectivist reminds me of the old NME controversy. When 2112 was released, the music rag accused him & Rush of being fascists. They haven't spoken to them in disgust since.


I wouldn't want my comments to be taken to mean that I think that Peart is a Nazi/Fascist, far from it, I just don't happen to be one of the many fans of Ms Rand, and thought that Neal went through a phase of shoving everyone's face in it in his lyrics. I still rate Rush as one of the best bands out there, and Neal is a brilliant drummer. It's just that if I wanna read The Fountainhead, I will read it, if you know what I mean! Confused
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Originally posted by Progist Progist wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Progist's comments about right wing objectivist reminds me of the old NME controversy. When 2112 was released, the music rag accused him & Rush of being fascists. They haven't spoken to them in disgust since.


I wouldn't want my comments to be taken to mean that I think that Peart is a Nazi/Fascist, far from it, I just don't happen to be one of the many fans of Ms Rand, and thought that Neal went through a phase of shoving everyone's face in it in his lyrics. I still rate Rush as one of the best bands out there, and Neal is a brilliant drummer. It's just that if I wanna read The Fountainhead, I will read it, if you know what I mean! Confused
I wasn't either but the connection is there. Anyway I'm just off to watch 'Beyond The Lighted Stage' so hopefully I will be more enlightened by the time the evening is upSmile

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Lyrically, Subdivisions, Ghost Rider, and The Trees.

Instrumentally YYZ, La Villa, and most obviously his live solos.
 
But honestly, Neal was born shining. Smile
 
 


Edited by TwoOneOneTwo - June 07 2010 at 13:57
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The film was very enjoyable. Neil read just about anything he could when he was young (his parents thought he was weird!). As Geddy and Alex admitted he had a much bigger brain than them so naturally ended up writing the lyrics even if they were a bit of a mouthfull to sing LOL

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