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CinemaZebra 
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 Posted: June 19 2010 at 11:27 |
 Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
I've said it before: I consider CttE to be one of the finest musical achievements of the 20th century.
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Same here. But I voted Lighthouse Keepers.
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 11:35 |
BaldJean wrote:
while "Close to the Edge" is an excellent piece of music it never is as daring as "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers". the masterpiece of Yes is not "Close to the Edge" but "The Gates of Delirium" |
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 11:36 |
Epignosis wrote:
Again, I have no idea what people see in Pawn Hearts (besides the interesting cover art). |
"Lemmings," "Man-Erg" and "A Plague of Light-House Keepers", that's what.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 11:39 |
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers.
Without doubt.
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
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Epignosis
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 11:39 |
UndercoverBoy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Again, I have no idea what people see in Pawn Hearts (besides the interesting cover art). |
"Lemmings," "Man-Erg" and "A Plague of Light-House Keepers", that's what. |
Thanks for the helpful tautology.
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 11:59 |
I guess if it just doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you. I can't really convince you to think differently, but to my ears, those three songs are some of the most beautiful, haunting, exciting and epic pieces of music I've ever heard.
Edited by UndercoverBoy - June 19 2010 at 12:00
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 12:11 |
Anderson III wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
while "Close to the Edge" is an excellent piece of music it never is as daring as "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers". the masterpiece of Yes is not "Close to the Edge" but "The Gates of Delirium"
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Oh, but surely there are so much more masterpieces from Yes!
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by "masterpiece" I meant "greatest achievement"
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Logan
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 12:12 |
 I'm with Josh on that. Three excellent pieces to my ears, but people's ears are accustomed to different types of music. It's a matter of taste/ experience. I liked the album on first listen, but had some problems with Hammill's histrionics, but I got beyond that. There was enough in the music for me to love that I kept on playing it and grew to thoroughly love the album. He to He and Godbluff were easier for me to really like at first. I happen to lake "crazier" forms of music than most, though beauty, though in the eye of the beholder, has to be there and I find beauty in Pawn Hearts, and there is sufficient contrast in the music to hold my interest. Music is in the ear of the behearer. There's a great deal of music I love that most wouldn't like and a great deal of loved music in PA that I don't like or find mediocre. Close to the Edge, for instance, I don't dislike, but I don't find it nearly as good as most here. That said, I respect that it does mean a lot to others even though it never had much of an impact on me (even when I was huge on Yes while 13 or 14, and Fragile was my favourite album). Anyway, definitely "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" for me. I do like "Close to the Edge", though.
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 12:17 |
Logan wrote:
I'm with Josh on that. Three excellent pieces to my ears, but people's ears are accustomed to different types of music. It's a matter of taste/ experience. I liked the album on first listen, but had some problems with Hammill's histrionics, but I got beyond that. There was enough in the music for me to love that I kept on playing it and grew to thoroughly love the album. He to He and Godbluff were easier for me to really like at first. I happen to lake "crazier" forms of music than most, though beauty, though in the eye of the beholder, has to be there and I find beauty in Pawn Hearts, and there is sufficient contrast in the music to hold my interest. Music is in the ear of the behearer. There's a great deal of music I love that most wouldn't like and a great deal of loved music in PA that I don't like or find mediocre. Close to the Edge, for instance, I don't dislike, but I don't find it nearly as good as most here. That said, I respect that it does mean a lot to others even though it never had much of an impact on me (even when I was huge on Yes while 13 or 14, and Fragile was my favourite album).
Anyway, definitely "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" for me. I do like "Close to the Edge", though.
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Pawn Hearts was my first VDGG album. My first listen of it, I disliked it. I found it a little too chaotic at times and it took me a while to adjust to Peter Hammil's maniacal voice. But a few listens later, I loved it.
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CinemaZebra
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 12:19 |
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WOW. Closest poll ever? A few minutes ago it was 31 to 31, now it's 32 to 32.
Edited by CinemaZebra - June 19 2010 at 12:20
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squire4001
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 14:06 |
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I love both epics, but my first love was CTTE.
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Prog´ everyday in every way of your life including music!
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Zombywoof
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 14:24 |
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I'll take VDGG over Yes anyday!!
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Continue the prog discussion here: http://zombyprog.proboards.com/index.cgi ...
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 16:05 |
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A Plague...by eons.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Soul Dreamer
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 20:57 |
^^^.. CTTE...by lightyears....
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To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica)
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A Person
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Posted: June 20 2010 at 19:46 |
Missed this, definitely voting for Lighthouse. CttE is a very good track, Lighthouse is a great one.  For one: I greatly prefer VdGG's vocals, and the atmosphere is amazing. CttE doesn't impress me as much, Gates of Delirium would have been a much harder choice.
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Posted: June 21 2010 at 02:33 |
Epignosis wrote:
Again, I have no idea what people see in Pawn Hearts (besides the interesting cover art). |
I think that Pawn Hearts is one of the finest examples of overrating on PA. However, there is one outstanding track on this album. Unfortunately, this is not A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, but Man-erg.
Plague forms half of the evidence that VdGG's virtues are not to be found in 20+ minute tracks.
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Epignosis
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Posted: June 21 2010 at 06:35 |
someone_else wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Again, I have no idea what people see in Pawn Hearts (besides the interesting cover art). |
I think that Pawn Hearts is one of the finest examples of overrating on PA. However, there is one outstanding track on this album. Unfortunately, this is not A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, but Man-erg.
Plague forms half of the evidence that VdGG's virtues are not to be found in 20+ minute tracks.
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Looking back on my review of this album, I said this of "Man-Erg:"
"Man-Erg" Soft piano and organ begin this much more pleasant track. I
love the soulful vocal
melody in the first several moments, and it may be my favorite part of
this album. After some
saxophone screeching, the pleasantness ends, as an odd and cacophonic
section takes over. All told,
this is my favorite track from the album, and essentially salvages it
from being banished from my
hearing it ever again.Although the last time I heard the album was when I reviewed it.
Edited by Epignosis - June 21 2010 at 06:36
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b_olariu
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Posted: June 21 2010 at 06:42 |
A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers 
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digdug
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Posted: June 21 2010 at 10:26 |
Soul Dreamer wrote:
CTTE...by lightyears.... |
This
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Prog On!
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 21 2010 at 12:53 |
someone_else wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Again, I have no idea what people see in Pawn Hearts (besides the interesting cover art). |
I think that Pawn Hearts is one of the finest examples of overrating on PA. However, there is one outstanding track on this album. Unfortunately, this is not A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, but Man-erg.
Plague forms half of the evidence that VdGG's virtues are not to be found in 20+ minute tracks.
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I think that "Close to the Edge" is one of the finest examples of overrating on PA. yes, a fine album, but where is the daring? all together much too tame. no, "Relayer" is a much better album than "Close to the Edge". here we find the daring that was missing in "Close to the Edge"
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