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    Posted: February 17 2013 at 19:22
Originally posted by Dick Heath

Is this the 5th or thr 50th time of telling?  IABD have tucked away on some reissue CD liner notes that in turn Bombay Calling was lifted from J.S. Bach.......


And I've read that Bombay Calling was ripped off from Vince Wallace.

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Also note that that coda doesn't represent a catharsis, like so many epics inspired by CiT would (Stairway to Heaven, November Rain), but an apocalypse.

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Not just the coda, but the entire piece represents an apocalypse. It's an unusually creepy song by Deep Purple's standards.

Yeah, "Child In Time" has to be the band's finest hour from I think to be the band's finest album (Deep Purple In Rock).

"Bombay Calling" is also nice.


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Originally posted by thellama73

While I like Child In Time a lot, I do feel that it (and the whole In Rock album) are overly praised. It's good hard rock with some progressive elements, but it didn't blow my mind the way a lot of other music has.

Music does not have to be prog to blow my mind.

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Originally posted by Dellinger

I'm afraid to say I only know Dream Theater's version, and I do think it's very good. But I wouldn't call it the greatest song of all time.

Oho, now that version is a failure. No way DT could ever pull off the song like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE
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Originally posted by Sean Trane

BTW, They did the same with Lazy and IABD's Don & Dewey

And quite a few other songs (Black Night, Fireball, Burn) contain stolen ideas as well. 

CiT definitely is progrock. Nobody had done something like this before. While one of the main themes comes from It's a beautiful Day indeed, the way that theme is developed was unique in 1969. The same for the coda. Also note that that coda doesn'r represent a catharsis, like so many epics inspired by CiT would (Stairway to Heaven, November Rain), but an apocalypse.

This is a bit typical for DP. They have done quite a few new things (by far not always with success; think of In Concert for a prime example) that have become so familiar that it has become hard to recognize the novelty factor. Fireball (the song) is proto speed-metal, Never Before is quite poppy in a way that only would become popular in the 80's and even the (in)famous Smoke on the Water defines the genre of arena-rock in an unprecedented way. Boy, am I happy that in 1972 the guys didn't realize yet that it's perfect for a tasteless audience sing-a-long (sure enough they would many years later).

Btw IABD's Don and Dewey is based on DP's Wring that Neck. Seems those two bands had a thing going on. Quite funny.

Completely subjective: DP were the greatest, but only in 1972 and 1973 (plus In Rock).
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Deep purple ftw! they're gods. and Child in time is just splendid.
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Child in Time has great (rough and melodic) composition!
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Deep Purple sadly ripped off many songs like Smoke on the Water from a jazz song Maria Moite by Astrud Gilberto and Gil Evans. Also Black Night from Ricky Nelson's Summertime and Burn from George Gershwin's Fascinating Rhythm. But they are still cool.


I can see why you say the Astrud Gilberto and Ricky Nelson songs sound similar to Smoke on the Water and Black Night, but I can't see any similarities to Burn from the Gershwin song.

Also, I am already aware that DP ripped off of Bombay Calling from IABD, but I really don't care... Deep Purple gave them credit and made the riff into something much more spectacular than that original song, so I'm very glad that they did.
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Originally posted by WatcherOfTheSkies88

Wasn't sure if I should post this topic in this forum or the "proto-prog" forum... but I think this song is definitely progressive rock. Anyway, just wanted to say that I think "Child in Time" by Deep Purple is the best rock song ever made. There aren't really enough words that one can use to describe how perfect this song is... but it really is just a thing of beauty! In particular, Gillan's spine-tingling screams and Blackmore's unbelievable guitar solo. The song just builds and builds, with multiple climaxes. The whole thing is just an orgasm for my ears. 
    
 
Anyway, have you heard the 18min. version off the remastered Live in Stokholm? Amazing, best version I've heard.
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Originally posted by WatcherOfTheSkies88

Wasn't sure if I should post this topic in this forum or the "proto-prog" forum... but I think this song is definitely progressive rock. Anyway, just wanted to say that I think "Child in Time" by Deep Purple is the best rock song ever made. There aren't really enough words that one can use to describe how perfect this song is... but it really is just a thing of beauty! In particular, Gillan's spine-tingling screams and Blackmore's unbelievable guitar solo. The song just builds and builds, with multiple climaxes. The whole thing is just an orgasm for my ears. 
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Is this the 5th or thr 50th time of telling?  IABD have tucked away on some reissue CD liner notes that in turn Bombay Calling was lifted from J.S. Bach.......
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Originally posted by CyberDiablo

Deep Purple sadly ripped off many songs like Smoke on the Water from a jazz song Maria Moite by Astrud Gilberto and Gil Evans. Also Black Night from Ricky Nelson's Summertime and Burn from George Gershwin's Fascinating Rhythm. But they are still cool.



while Child In Time is a blatant rip-off, I don't think they took Smoke On The Water from that old tune. Yes, the pattern is identical, but it's typical blues scale with a blue note, only played with heavy riff. It was a question of time when someone would stumble upon it. It's like saying The Eagles took 'Hotel California' from Tull's 'We Used To Know'. Perhaps they did, but the chord progression is very natural for anyone who's dabbling around with guitar.
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While I like Child In Time a lot, I do feel that it (and the whole In Rock album) are overly praised. It's good hard rock with some progressive elements, but it didn't blow my mind the way a lot of other music has.
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Does have one of the great guitar solos of the era.
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As much as I like Child In Time it's certainly not the best rock song ever made - there is no such thing Wink
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Originally posted by Dellinger

I'm afraid to say I only know Dream Theater's version, and I do think it's very good.


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Originally posted by WatcherOfTheSkies88

Wasn't sure if I should post this topic in this forum or the "proto-prog" forum... but I think this song is definitely progressive rock. Anyway, just wanted to say that I think "Child in Time" by Deep Purple is the best rock song ever made. There aren't really enough words that one can use to describe how perfect this song is... but it really is just a thing of beauty! In particular, Gillan's spine-tingling screams and Blackmore's unbelievable guitar solo. The song just builds and builds, with multiple climaxes. The whole thing is just an orgasm for my ears. 
 
hate to bring it to you, but Child In Time was musically lifted by Purple from It's A Beautyful Day' s Bonbay Calling 
 
 
 
But it"'s still one of my fave Purple track, though.
 
 
BTW, They did the same with Lazy and IABD's Don & Dewey
 
II never really got the last one, Don & Dewey ripped off Purple's Wring that Neck because Purple stole first Bombay Calling. I don't see where Lazy fits the picture.
 
 I don't hear much of Wring That Neck in Don & Dewey at all. ConfusedEmbarrassedConfused
 
And the Purple story goes that Purple would've allowed this as part of the price to pay for ripping off  BC
 
You might however listen and compare D&D and Lazy >>> It's strikingly the same 
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I'm afraid to say I only know Dream Theater's version, and I do think it's very good. But I wouldn't call it the greatest song of all time.
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Originally posted by CyberDiablo

Deep Purple sadly ripped off many songs like Smoke on the Water from a jazz song Maria Moite by Astrud Gilberto and Gil Evans. Also Black Night from Ricky Nelson's Summertime and Burn from George Gershwin's Fascinating Rhythm. But they are still cool.
 
Deep Purple and many other bands from the time, there's nothing really wrong with it, it was something pretty common from the time as far as I'm concerned.

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