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    Posted: June 27 2010 at 17:44
 I haven't delved too deep into RIO bands but am interested in doing so. I've been listening to early Univers Zero and I have an obsession of Henry Cow's album Industry. I'm interested in groups with these qualities:
-Multiple classical instruments used to execute harmony
-20th century classical influence
-Instrumental


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2010 at 18:17

You can try some chamber rock outfits à la Univers Zero. Here are a few suggestions with good albums to start with in my opinion.

- Present (Triskaïdekaphobie + Le poison qui rend fou)
- Art Zoyd (Musique pour l'Odyssée, Génération sans futur)
- Julverne (Coulonneux)
- Sotos (Platypus)
- Shub-Niggurath (Les morts vont vite)
- Rouge Ciel (Rouge Ciel)
- Miriodor (Jongleries élastiques)
- Guapo (Black Oni)
- Magma (Mekanïk Destruktïw Kömmandöh)
- Ahvak
 
Magma isn't chamber rock, but it is deeply influenced by Stravinsky and Orff, with a jazz feeling to it.
You may also like ZNR, with has a strong Satie influence.
 
As for suggestions similar to Henry Cow's instrumental music, I'd suggest some Canterbury Scene albums. There are even some R.I.O. tinged ones...
- The Muffins (Manna/Mirage)
- Picchio Dal Pozzo (Abbiamo Tutti I Suoi Problemi)
- COS (Posteaolian Train Robbery)
- Moving Gelatine Plates (The World of Genius Hans)
 
And also some projects related to Henry Cow / Fred Frith in a certain way
- Étron Fou Leloublan* (Batelages)
- Aksak Maboul (Onze danses pour calmer la migraine)
 
That should be enough for now. I hope I helped!
 
* Étron Fou Leloublan isn't instrumental but they're one of my favourite bands ever, they should fit your tastes. Fred Frith played on Les poumons gonflés and produced he album, too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2010 at 18:47
How about The Art Bears?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2010 at 20:26
Originally posted by Captain Clutch Captain Clutch wrote:

How about The Art Bears?
 
Originally posted by The Tengent The Tengent wrote:

I'm interested in groups with these qualities [...] Instrumental
 
I love Art Bears, but they don't really fit his tastes.
And they're an avant-pop band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2010 at 20:30
Oops missed the "instrumental" qualifier
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2010 at 21:19
Actually the Art Bears do fit my taste, lol. Thank you so far. I love long lists of prog bands I've never heard of. Also- it'd be lovely if the bands featured rock instruments along-side classical instruments, as Henry Cow did. I should have mentioned that, but I will gladly check out the bands so far, no doubt. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2010 at 21:24
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

- Miriodor (Jongleries élastiques)
- Magma (Mekanïk Destruktïw Kömmandöh)
- The Muffins (Manna/Mirage)
- Moving Gelatine Plates (The World of Genius Hans)
I've listened to each of these at one time or another. The Muffins are one of my favorite American progressive artists. I never understood Miriodor.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2010 at 21:31
Well, Art Zoyd has guitars on some of their stuff, most notably their debut

http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Les+Fourmis/2LLAYX
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2010 at 23:53
All the artists I've suggested have rock instruments in their music.
I'm a bit disappointed that you don't like Miriodor. You definitely should give them another try, at least if you haven't heard Jongleries élastiques. If you love The Muffins, I'm sure my other suggestions will please you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 00:07
Other than some stuff already mentioned. Two Mexican groups for you to think about. The first one has a mean bassoon player, if that tickles you fancy ;) 


Nazca - Estacion De Sombra



All musicians have been classically trained and have played in Orchestras at some point in their lives. A couple of months ago Wayside (or a similar distributor was selling this for a steal) 

- Alejandro Sanchez / violin
- Juan Carlos Ruiz / oboe & bassoon
- Guauahtemoc Novelo / drums & percussion
- Jorge Gaitan / bass, viola
- Carlo Nicolau / piano, cello



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This is a little different but might fit the fold. Classical influence is a little odd with this one, in some way I'd happily guess these guys have listened to their fair share of Stockhausen. So in this light, slight more atonal, but they keep the vibe warm and listenable. One of their member(s?) went on to form Nazca. While 'Voice' is credited, the voice is used sparsely in an 'extra instrument' manor, really just formless articulations that blend perfectly with their improvisations.

Decibel - El Poeta Del Ruido




- Jaime Castaneda / drums, percussion, violin, voice
- Carlos Robledo / keyboards, tapes, trumpet, guitar, flute, marimba, percussion, voice
- Alejandro Sanchez / violin, clarinet, piano, bass, trombone, percussion, voice
- Walter Schmidt / bass, guitar, organ, flute, saxophone, synthesizer, voice

With (at the time of recording they were still not full members of the band)
- Carlos Alvarado / keyboards
- Javier Baviera / clarinet, saxophone
- Victor Robledo / violin, synthesizer
- Jean Luis Romero / clarinet
- Miguel Angel Nava / synthesizer (only on live tracks)


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I'm tempted to recommend some other stuff, but probably leave it at those two.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 00:17
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

All the artists I've suggested have rock instruments in their music.
I'm a bit disappointed that you don't like Miriodor. You definitely should give them another try, at least if you haven't heard Jongleries élastiques. If you love The Muffins, I'm sure my other suggestions will please you.
I was disappointed I didn't like Miriodor as well, believe me. I'll try them again. Anyway, I've been youtubing your suggestions and I like Present, ZNR, and (especially) Ahvak.

@ Apsalar - I had my first bassoon lesson a week ago. You could say it tickles my fancy ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 07:25
Originally posted by Tengent Tengent wrote:

Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

All the artists I've suggested have rock instruments in their music.
I'm a bit disappointed that you don't like Miriodor. You definitely should give them another try, at least if you haven't heard Jongleries élastiques. If you love The Muffins, I'm sure my other suggestions will please you.
I was disappointed I didn't like Miriodor as well, believe me. I'll try them again. Anyway, I've been youtubing your suggestions and I like Present, ZNR, and (especially) Ahvak.

@ Apsalar - I had my first bassoon lesson a week ago. You could say it tickles my fancy ;)
Have you tried Miriodors most recent album, Avanti!, definitely worth hearing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 17:18
Originally posted by Tengent Tengent wrote:

Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

All the artists I've suggested have rock instruments in their music.
I'm a bit disappointed that you don't like Miriodor. You definitely should give them another try, at least if you haven't heard Jongleries élastiques. If you love The Muffins, I'm sure my other suggestions will please you.
I was disappointed I didn't like Miriodor as well, believe me. I'll try them again. Anyway, I've been youtubing your suggestions and I like Present, ZNR, and (especially) Ahvak.

@ Apsalar - I had my first bassoon lesson a week ago. You could say it tickles my fancy ;)
 
Well, Present shares some members with Univers Zero, that's why I suggested them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 17:33
Also try:

Cartoon
PFS
Pocket Orchestra (especially this band, they're awesome and feature not only chamber prog but also fantastic prog and rock elements too)

You may also like other projects featuring Henry Cow members, such as News from Babel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 17:34
Blast (sometimes the Blast 4tet) sometimes sound uncannily like Henry Cow, as do U-Totem (although they're not exclusively instrumental). The other ecommendations so far are all worth following up as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 18:06
Also try Derome/Lussier aka Les Granules.  They even have had Fred Frith guest with them live.  Their albums are very Henry Cow influenced.

Also worth a listen are La 1919, who's third album featured Chris Cutler.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 18:20

Banda Elastica.

I believe I read somewhere (most likely their bio here) that they have been referred to as the mexican Henry Cow. Banda Elastica 2 is the one that is said to be the masterpiece but I think its OOP. I have Ai Tencargo which is excellent.
 
If you would prefer something less structured and more like the HC improvs the Chris Culter/Fred Frith duet albums are quite good. Probably a bit on the cusp of what your looking for, but still worthy of a rec IMO. I like Live Vol. 2 the most, though 2 Gentlemen In Verona is very good as well.
 
There is a band called Happy Accidents that play a blend of Canterbury and RIO, but I haven't listened to them, but perhaps worthy of investigation.
 
I would also like to emphasize some excellent recommendations in this thread already. Cartoon, PFS, Pocket Orchestra, Picchio Dal Pozzo, and Decibel especially are the best RIO albums that aren't technically RIO albums around.  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2010 at 16:31
there are some nice chamber pieces by Mont Campbell on Egg's Civil Surface Album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2010 at 17:03
Jacques Thollot, a french drummer who recorded an album of..."unlistenable" music :



An album that predates RIO but that is very weird :




"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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