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Poll Question: If Led Zep is Prog Related band, which their song is nearest to Prog?
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ I just did.


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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

What I don't understand is why so many people are voting for "Achilles" when this band did far more progressive things like "Kashmir" (a long track in 3/4 (6/4) featuring the Mellotron and the flanger effect).
Who's laughing now? It's on page four.

How hard is it for a person to look through a five-page thread and find the thing he is looking for?
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

What I don't understand is why so many people are voting for "Achilles" when this band did far more progressive things like "Kashmir" (a long track in 3/4 (6/4) featuring the Mellotron and the flanger effect).
I'm not an expert on these things but I don't think Kashmir is in 3/4 or 6/4. It's certainly not in waltz time despite the odd timing of the riff.
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6/4 over 4/4 in the verses. 
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Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

6/4 over 4/4 in the verses. 
Yes you're right, I was talking rubbish as usual.
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The most appealing to prog rock standards, for me, is Carouselambra.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

6/4 over 4/4 in the verses. 
Yes you're right, I was talking rubbish as usual.
Looks like I got some of the theory to revisit.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - January 24 2013 at 11:41
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Originally posted by SyrinxTemple SyrinxTemple wrote:

How in the world is Achilles Last Stand not on this list?
 
Agreed ... and by definition definitly the one piece that is "progressive" ... and he can explain it to you really well in "It's Gonna Get Loud" ...
 
I like LZ a lot, but I really think that stretching this to progressive is a bit scary ... although by the time we put the distinctions side by side, LZ will come off more progressive than half the bands we DID call progressive.
 
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Achilles is the one...
No Quarter is next.
Friends of the Folk/Prog song off of III is worth a shout.
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Then I guess I am alone on this one about Achilles.
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Heavy prog is the most Zeppilistic genre in prog LOL
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Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

The most appealing to prog rock standards, for me, is Carouselambra.
I agree, by any standard actually, it is their most progressive number in the studio -

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I always thought Song Remains the Same to be proggy......but No Quarter, Kashmir and Achilles also fit the bill for me.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

The Rain Song, easy.

I went with this. The live version on The Song Remains the Same is just sublime. It's one of those songs that I just *had* to learn how to play, note-for-note.
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Originally posted by awaken77 awaken77 wrote:

Led Zeppelin is as progressive as Guns And Roses is 

if any kind of long song is "progressive" , so "November Rain" is a prog-epic lol:


Did Guns-n-Roses sing about elves and pixies? About magic runes writ in gold? About Mordor and the Hammer of the gods? Hmph. I thought not. Wink


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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Also surprised "Four Sticks" isn't on here.

Four Stix, my favorite under appreciated LZ track. I love how the 5/4 and 3/4 sections fit together. I don't know if it's their most prog but I love it.
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Originally posted by stegor stegor wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Also surprised "Four Sticks" isn't on here.

Four Stix, my favorite under appreciated LZ track. I love how the 5/4 and 3/4 sections fit together. I don't know if it's their most prog but I love it.

Agreed. Other tracks on IV get all the notice (Stairway, Levee, Rock & Roll, Black Dog, Evermore, Going to California), but it's Four Sticks and Misty Mountain Hop that are the real backbone of this album. Such an amazing album, one that's hard to appreciate because of its ubiquity (every song got massive air play on AOR stations in the US in the 70s/80s).


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Originally posted by stegor stegor wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Also surprised "Four Sticks" isn't on here.

Four Stix, my favorite under appreciated LZ track. I love how the 5/4 and 3/4 sections fit together. I don't know if it's their most prog but I love it.
 
 
Yep...that's a great song and one of my favorites by them.
 
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Come to think of it, 4 Sticks is probably the only song from IV I haven't heard on the radio.
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Originally posted by awaken77 awaken77 wrote:

Led Zeppelin is as progressive as Guns And Roses is 

if any kind of long song is "progressive" , so "November Rain" is a prog-epic lol:




Spoken by someone who's probably only heard 'Black Dog'. 

No Quarter, Achilles, The Song Remains the Same, the Rain Song, Carouselambra, etc, not prog? Eh?
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