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Steven Brodziak 
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 Posted: March 20 2011 at 03:14 |
How strange, I was just thinking exactly about these 2 songs just an hour or so ago.
This is truly bizzare!
I choose the underdog "More Fool Me". Both are heart wrenching but the vocal on "More Fool Me" IS also wrenching.
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Well, there it is. (Amadeus)
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Steven Brodziak
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Posted: March 20 2011 at 03:17 |
 progman2010 wrote:
For absent friends is the 3rd best song on NC behind Hogweed and Salmacis  |
How does that go? Blasphemy? ^
Have you ever heard of the song "The Musical Box"?
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Well, there it is. (Amadeus)
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Steven Brodziak
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Posted: March 20 2011 at 03:20 |
faldyreyzandi wrote:
According to me,both of more fool me and for absent friends, and time table too, is better than harold the barrel or counting out time. |
TimeTable is leapsand bounds above all others mentioned.
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Well, there it is. (Amadeus)
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Steven Brodziak
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Posted: March 20 2011 at 03:24 |
Oh it just irks me when people knock and mock songs. Battle of Epping Forest is annoying? Give me a friggin break. That has tobe the dumbest thing I've seen anyone write on prog archives to date.
Go turn on your Dixie Chicks or Boys to Men or something.
Edited by Steven Brodziak - March 20 2011 at 03:25
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Well, there it is. (Amadeus)
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Ruby900
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Posted: March 20 2011 at 15:19 |
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FAF for me. MFM is the real low point of SEBTP for me, always skip it.....
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"I always say that it’s about breaking the rules. But the secret of breaking rules in a way that works is understanding what the rules are in the first place". Rick Wakeman
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Dellinger
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Posted: March 20 2011 at 22:57 |
Steven Brodziak wrote:
Oh it just irks me when people knock and mock songs. Battle of Epping Forest is annoying? Give me a friggin break. That has tobe the dumbest thing I've seen anyone write on prog archives to date.
Go turn on your Dixie Chicks or Boys to Men or something. |
Well, it is annoying to me, I don't have to like every song Genesis ever wrote. If you like that song, then that's great for you, because that means you can have a better time listening to Selling England than me. I wouldn't ever dream of calling anyone dumb because they do like Epping Forest, that's just their taste and their choice.
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Steven Brodziak
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Posted: March 20 2011 at 23:05 |
Dellinger wrote:
Steven Brodziak wrote:
Oh it just irks me when people knock and mock songs. Battle of Epping Forest is annoying? Give me a friggin break. That has tobe the dumbest thing I've seen anyone write on prog archives to date.
Go turn on your Dixie Chicks or Boys to Men or something. |
Well, it is annoying to me, I don't have to like every song Genesis ever wrote. If you like that song, then that's great for you, because that means you can have a better time listening to Selling England than me. I wouldn't ever dream of calling anyone dumb because they do like Epping Forest, that's just their taste and their choice. |
I don't like every Genesis song either. I'm soory if I came off harsh. I didn't say you were dumb. It's like saying "I hate people that bite their nails" compared to, "I hate it when people bite their nails". 1. You hate the person. 2. You hate the action. I don't hate people for anything (unless they voted for Obama) but! I digress. Have you ever listened to it and read along the lyrics to understand it better?
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Well, there it is. (Amadeus)
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: March 21 2011 at 12:09 |
Still can't believe "More Fool Me" is way behind  
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Posted: March 21 2011 at 14:51 |
Dellinger wrote:
Steven Brodziak wrote:
Oh it just irks me when people knock and mock songs. Battle of Epping Forest is annoying? Give me a friggin break. That has tobe the dumbest thing I've seen anyone write on prog archives to date.
Go turn on your Dixie Chicks or Boys to Men or something. |
Well, it is annoying to me, I don't have to like every song Genesis ever wrote. If you like that song, then that's great for you, because that means you can have a better time listening to Selling England than me. I wouldn't ever dream of calling anyone dumb because they do like Epping Forest, that's just their taste and their choice. |
Well I generally skip The Battle of Epping Forest (which probably works better if you're not English; to English ears - well, certainly to my English ears - it's about as convincing as the Eagles singing in the personae of New York street gang members) but I never skip More Fool Me.
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
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Posted: March 21 2011 at 22:42 |
Dellinger wrote:
Even though not a prog masterpiece, I find "For absent friends" to be a very enjoyable little piece of music... really beautiful. "More fool me", though not a particularly bad or annoying piece of music, is really rather neglectable... I don't think it adds or takes anything away from "Selling England" (if it were longer, it would hurt the album more, but as it is, it might just as well be part of the album or not, I don't care - for me the one that really hurts "Selling England" is "Battle of Epping Forest", which is much more annoying and much longer). |
Battle of Epping Forest pointed the way quite nicely to the next item in the Genesis catalog, 'Lamb,' and I love the guitar work in the finale by Mr. Hackett.
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Posted: March 22 2011 at 23:41 |
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^ However, I don't really like The Lamb very much either... somehow it sounds as a departure from what I liked best from the sound on "Nursery Crime", "Foxtrot", and "Selling England... "
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Posted: March 23 2011 at 09:02 |
Dellinger wrote:
^ However, I don't really like The Lamb very much either... somehow it sounds as a departure from what I liked best from the sound on "Nursery Crime", "Foxtrot", and "Selling England... " |
Not a big fan of 'Lamb' either as it was spotty. It did, however, have its moments of brilliance. You are right, though - it was a grand departure from the previous three (Foxtrot being my favorite). Gabriel must have really wanted to go out with a bang.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: March 23 2011 at 10:59 |
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Well I chose For Absent Friends. It's okay. More Fool Me is one of the worst prog songs I've heard. Everything about it is godawful.
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Posted: March 23 2011 at 17:41 |
I'm looking forward to my first vote after being a member for 4 years .... LOL
More Fool Me (vocals Phil), is what really makes you enjoy the song. They felt the need to tell you Phil was singing on the album cover!! Like, let's give this guy a shot. Great lyric, great hook, "and yes I'm sure it will work out all right" beats "the bus that ambles down the street".
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Posted: March 23 2011 at 17:51 |
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For Absent Friends by a small margin. Both songs undeserved hatred for being written/sung by Collins IMO.
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Dellinger
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Posted: March 23 2011 at 22:52 |
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
Well I chose For Absent Friends. It's okay. More Fool Me is one of the worst prog songs I've heard. Everything about it is godawful. |
I don't think More Fool Me could be considered a Prog Song.
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Posted: March 24 2011 at 09:24 |
Olias Bro wrote:
I'm looking forward to my first vote after being a member for 4 years .... LOL
More Fool Me (vocals Phil), is what really makes you enjoy the song. They felt the need to tell you Phil was singing on the album cover!! Like, let's give this guy a shot. Great lyric, great hook, "and yes I'm sure it will work out all right" beats "the bus that ambles down the street".
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Phillip Collins had already had his shot with Flaming Youth and as the Artful Dodger on the West End. More Fool Me is rather a comedown - a real softball of a song that would have been interesting as a duet with Gabriel singing lead. As it stands, it's just an odd little tune that doesn't go well with all that adorns the rest of the album. Thank God for his real shot two albums later. It's grand!
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MonsterMagnet
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Posted: March 25 2011 at 11:58 |
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I think that Selling England by the Pound would have been better without More Fool Me
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 16:46 |
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Does the turnout here kinda' give you the idea that there's a lotta' More Fool Me haters?
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Posted: March 30 2011 at 17:14 |
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Not really.
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