Have You Seen Triumvirat Live?

presdoug wrote: presdoug wrote: Well, well, well!          For the first time in my life, on the net tonight, i saw a direct reference to a concert with Triumvirat in Canada.  (I started a thread on Triumvirat in Canada, but it has been closed)            The reference mentions Supertramp and Triumvirat -Southern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium, Calgary, Alberta, Canada for Tues. Aug. 5th, 1975.               It does not mention who led in for who, and whether this concert actually did take place for certain.         Anybody out there actually see the show?             Triumvirat in Canada was a reality. I checked the above reference recently, and someone signed up as having been to this Calgary concert so long ago. Makes me wonder if there were any other Canadian dates.

I heard recently from a very reliable source, that Triumvirat did indeed play Montreal.

presdoug wrote: There is a new old Triumvirat recording now available, Triumvirat Live from Ultrasonic Studios, Hempstead, NY, October 1st, 1974, FM (Soundboard)               It consists of The Burning Sword Of Capua intro, and the complete Illusions On A Double Dimple album

I believe this to be the first performance of the band in North America. I've read that Ultrasonic Studios was a pretty professionally run place, so this should sound good!

Sorry, but looks like it's not a legit release, even though it's from a Studio Soundboard source.

            There is a place on the net in America called Rockinconcerts that is selling it.

I haven't bought a copy yet. It sells for $19.99 US. 

brainstormer wrote: There is: Triumvirat - 1974/10/12 - Live in Providence, RI online now at youtube. Were they mostly a studio band, or did they not do extensive touring?  It seems very odd there are not more live copies floating around, or are there?

They did tour extensively during their career. There only exists boots like the one above as documents of their live concerts. The closest thing that comes to a "legit" live recording were three tracks from Spartacus that used to be in a bootleg, that were cleaned up and presented as bonus tracks on Friday Music's CD issue of the Spartacus album a few years back.
                              One of those Spartacus live tracks "The Capitol Of Power" actually used to be the B-side of a single from 1976.
                 There nowhere exists an official complete live concert of Triumvirat-very odd, indeed.

Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote: Doug, who among the band is still alive? Surely one of them must have some recordings hidden away that fans - and some lucky label! - would love to have released?

The only member of the band that I know has passed on is Helmut. Of the surviving members, only Barry Palmer is actively on the net and still connects himself with Triumvirat, though.
                                       You raise an important question, some of them may have access to live recordings.

Been doing some thinking about old T'rat, and why there is a scanty amount of related material on this group. They are not well represented on the net, really. Their old site is still up, but has been static, and no one has added anything to it for over a decade.
                      Would you realise that in my entire life, I have only seen one colour photo of these guys! Most are black and white.
                     Though they have fans from all over the world, they only ever toured in Europe, and North America (mainly in the US, rarely in Canada).
                         I think  there were several strokes against the band.
                   1) Never having a worldwide hit single.
                   2) Hitting their stride commercially for a pretty short amount of time (Spartacus was in the top 30 in America, but not for very long) (The Hymm single was a hit in Germany but not for that long)
                   3) Their existing radio exposure was hit on the head by the changing face of FM radio in the mid-seventies
                   4) Helmut Koellen decides to leave the band at the end of 1975. Such an important and integral part of the group at that time.
                   5) On top of all that, Triumvirat, like other progressive rock groups, soon had to deal with the emergent punk and new wave focus in the music industry-suddenly something like Spartacus is definitely out of fashion.
                  6) A somewhat revolving door of subsequent musicians-the previously stable, workable lineup of Fritz-Koellen-Bathelt now permanently eludes them.
                  7) There is no tour for the 1976 album Old Loves Die Hard, despite  great new singer Barry Palmer.
                  8) Helmut Koellen dies on May 3rd, 1977. No North American tour for 1977's Pompeii album.
                  All of these things prevented the real Triumvirat from continuing their success.
   Fast forward to 2002, a new Triumvirat has a brand new album recorded, there is talk of a big tour, then the record company who are backing things goes bankrupt! And EMI wouldn't get involved with the new plans, apart from the 2002 remastered old Triumvirat albums.
                    
                 
               
                    


Edited by presdoug - August 06 2015 at 12:32

^I have only heard I think a couple of tracks, but it doesn't sound anything like the Triumvirat of old. It smacks of modern pop, in some ways, I am sorry to say.

^hey, Ric, thanks for your words of understanding and empathy. 

There is a CD release that I saw for the first time recently, called "The Road To Nowhere". It turned out  to be just another bootleg of the Ultrasonics concert.

Edited by presdoug - February 22 2015 at 11:28