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    Posted: October 17 2013 at 13:21
I'm a pretty big fan of theirs. I even got to see them live twice(once on their own and once opening for YES). I would call them prog pop or pop prog. You could even call them art rock. Were they a full blown prog band? Probably not but neither were a lot of bands who often considered prog(cough cough moody blues cough cough). I would say they are in the same ball park as Ambrosia or the Moody Blues as far as prog content goes. All my opinion of course. Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 12:32
Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:


Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:


Amazing. Beautiful band. I tell you how many times I've listened to the song 'Some other Time' in my life.
Unbelievable.


 
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Arjen Lucassen did a cover of it on his 'Lost In The New Real' album last year.
 
 
The vocals on the original sound so much like Colin Blunstone, but were actually shared by Peter Straker & Jaki Whitren - a guy and a chick with very similar sounding voices.
 
 
The choruses were sung by Jaki, and the verses by Peter, who had previously starred in the 'Hair' musical at the Shaftesbury Theatre in London.  Geek
 
This is an equally beautiful APP track from 'Eye In The Sky' (1982), which DOES have Colin Blunstone on vocals:
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 11:11
Pop-Prog, Symph Lite, Crossover...whatever you call it, APP's I, Robot is great!! I can't say I like that much of the Parsons catalogue but I love that album (especially the reissue with more instrumentals).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 10:51

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:


Amazing. Beautiful band. I tell you how many times I've listened to the song 'Some other Time' in my life.
Unbelievable.

 
Ditto. Approve
 
Arjen Lucassen did a cover of it on his 'Lost In The New Real' album last year.
 
 
The vocals on the original sound so much like Colin Blunstone, but were actually shared by Peter Straker & Jaki Whitren - a guy and a chick with very similar sounding voices.
 
 
The choruses were sung by Jaki, and the verses by Peter, who had previously starred in the 'Hair' musical at the Shaftesbury Theatre in London.  Geek
 
This is an equally beautiful APP track from 'Eye In The Sky' (1982), which DOES have Colin Blunstone on vocals:
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 09:59
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Prog Related AOR.

That works for me ..or prog lite as I half jokingly mentioned.
I always though their lp's were patchy but they managed to have a decent fm radio track now and then.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 01:08
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:


Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

To me APP and Supertramp define Crossover Prog.  Prog with pop elements.  Or pop with prog.  There are too many bands in Crossover that should be in a more 'standard' prog genre.Oh well!


They do not define crossover prog, for the simple reason that when they started out in the 70's, nobody used the phrase. Both APP and Tramp were merely standouts amongst the general art/prog scene of the time.
I do, however, agree with you about your letter point re the number in Crossover, which, to me, has merely been used as a dumping ground for a whole pile of bands where we couldn't decide/be bothered (delete as appropriate). 


As a matter of fact, gieven what I have read on this site, I understand many of the prog giants actually started their career (and perhaps even released several of their prog masterpieces) before the term prog came into being. However, when did the term prog actually came to be used?

Oh dear....this, my dear chap, will inevitably morph into the "what was the first prog album" debate, a question which has been flogged so much on this site, death would be a happy release for it. It is certainly a debate I have little interest in.

All I will say is that these now middle aged ears remember when they were young ears the phrase prog being used in the early 70's onward......this is all we need to knowApprove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 21:18
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:


Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

To me APP and Supertramp define Crossover Prog.  Prog with pop elements.  Or pop with prog.  There are too many bands in Crossover that should be in a more 'standard' prog genre.Oh well!


They do not define crossover prog, for the simple reason that when they started out in the 70's, nobody used the phrase. Both APP and Tramp were merely standouts amongst the general art/prog scene of the time.
I do, however, agree with you about your letter point re the number in Crossover, which, to me, has merely been used as a dumping ground for a whole pile of bands where we couldn't decide/be bothered (delete as appropriate). 


As a matter of fact, gieven what I have read on this site, I understand many of the prog giants actually started their career (and perhaps even released several of their prog masterpieces) before the term prog came into being. However, when did the term prog actually came to be used?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 12:42
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:


Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

APP are definitely Prog and to classify them into one specific sub-genre or even genre of music for that matter would be ridiculous. APP are a dynamic fusing of many different Sub Genres of Prog. I look at them as being a combination of crossover Prog, Progressive Electronic and Psyche/Space rock.

Amazing. Beautiful band. I tell you how many times I've listened to the song 'Some other Time' in my life.
Unbelievable.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 12:39
One of the most redeeming features about an artist is when you can't label them into one single category of a music genre or sub-genre. APP are just that. They keep you guessing and that is a wonderful unique quality in my opinion.
Certain albums from APP take on different themes and styles, but more importantly Labeling anyone particular album into one genre or sub genre just doesn't fit with APP. Gotta love it.

Same goes for NINE INCH NAILS. They can't be labeled singularly either.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 12:01
The first time I heard someone calling APP "progressive rock" I was quite surprised. I had always considered it more of an AOR band, even if that word may be as ambiguous as prog. Apart from their debut album, you can always find some proggy songs here and there, such as The turn of a friendly card, Silence and I, Ammonia avenue or La sagrada Familia. Who cares about labels anyway?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 00:53
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

To me APP and Supertramp define Crossover Prog.  Prog with pop elements.  Or pop with prog.  There are too many bands in Crossover that should be in a more 'standard' prog genre.
Oh well!

They do not define crossover prog, for the simple reason that when they started out in the 70's, nobody used the phrase. Both APP and Tramp were merely standouts amongst the general art/prog scene of the time.

I do, however, agree with you about your letter point re the number in Crossover, which, to me, has merely been used as a dumping ground for a whole pile of bands where we couldn't decide/be bothered (delete as appropriate). 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2013 at 21:40
To me APP and Supertramp define Crossover Prog.  Prog with pop elements.  Or pop with prog.  There are too many bands in Crossover that should be in a more 'standard' prog genre.
Oh well!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2013 at 15:05
How about Pink Floyd Lite....?
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Always heard their tracks on FM radio and their first 3 lp's  at friends homes, but never really got into them.
They did have some nice tracks here and there but they always seemed to lack something for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2013 at 14:13
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

APP are definitely Prog and to classify them into one specific sub-genre or even genre of music for that matter would be ridiculous. APP are a dynamic fusing of many different Sub Genres of Prog. I look at them as being a combination of crossover Prog, Progressive Electronic and Psyche/Space rock.

Amazing. Beautiful band. I tell you how many times I've listened to the song 'Some other Time' in my life.
Unbelievable.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2013 at 14:01
APP are definitely Prog and to classify them into one specific sub-genre or even genre of music for that matter would be ridiculous. APP are a dynamic fusing of many different Sub Genres of Prog. I look at them as being a combination of crossover Prog, Progressive Electronic and Psyche/Space rock.

Amazing. Beautiful band. I tell you how many times I've listened to the song 'Some other Time' in my life.
Unbelievable.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2011 at 03:45
Tales of Mystery and I Robot seals the deal for me. Great prog concept albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2011 at 19:31
The music was created by both Alan Parsons and Eric Woolfson, the concepts of the album seem to have been thought of by Parsons, but the lyrics by Woolfson. Andrew Powell was the arranger of the orchestrations. Erick Woolfson did sing and play keyboards from time to time. Alan Parsons almost contributed to nothing as far as playing and singing was concerned (from time to time he would sing as part of the chorus, or play som rythm instrument, but nothing particularly important). The project was mainly Parsons and Woolfson, plus to a lesser degree Powell.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2011 at 01:20
At least they (or "he"?) must be credited for trying to put some quality in mainstream music.
Tales, I Robot and Pyramid are very good albums. After that I don't care much for what they did but I still respect them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2011 at 20:43
Of the 2 albums I've heard, I found Tales to be a bit theatrical and I Robot to be a nice, well rounded album that fits nicely between Dark Side of The Moon and Crime of the Century.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2011 at 04:15

Prog Related AOR.

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