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Poll Question: Which band do you prefer?
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    Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:15
ONLY VOTE IF YOU KNOW BOTH BANDS.

These two are my main musical obsessions right now.  Pretty different styles between the two; where Magma is often dark and moody, Cardiacs are often loud and playful.  Both have produced several albums which I would consider masterpieces (though I will admit I'm not as familiar with a majority of the Cardiacs albums, that will change soon enough). 
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C'mon Jon

Yes, the Cardiacs are really good, but nobody can match Magma Tongue

although I've admitted only heard a handful of Cardiacs material
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SaltyJon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:21
I'd comfortably say they were about equal in my book. 
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Well, in my situation, when I want cheery/playful music I generally don't go the avant-garde route, so yeah
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I wouldn't exactly call them "cheery".  Most of my favorite bizarre/playful groups are from RIO/Avant...these guys, Samla Mammas Manna, etc. 
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Yeah Samla Mammas Manna are another group that I feel similarly about.  I like their music but it's a tad too silly/ADD for me
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The Cardiacs - without any hesitation. MDK bores me to death.
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Hmm I've always wanted to try The Cardiacs. What album should I begin with?

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Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Hmm I've always wanted to try The Cardiacs. What album should I begin with?


I'll provide two tracks here.  If you like the first one more, start with A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window, and if you like the second, start with Sing to God (they're both available on iTunes, with Sing to God being in two parts, both necessary IMO).





If you don't like either one...run away!!! LOL


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I'm not as familiar with the Cardiacs, though I've heard a few albums, and various other tracks, whereas I have over twenty Magma albums, so voting would be unfair.  That said, while I really like The Cardiacs, it hasn't had the effect on me that Magma has.  Magma was revelatory. The Cardiacs are very good, though, and I need to get more of the music. I haven't listened to the Cardiacs in a long time, and I'm listening again to Sing to God -- love it. Hadn't listened in ages. They're very different. It was about time we had a Pronk vs. Zeuhl poll. Usually it's all Cardiacs vs. The Residents and Magma vs. Koenjihyakkei (which is also punky) etc.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SaltyJon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:38
Yeah, I figured this was a poll which hadn't been done very often (if at all) so I decided to go for it. 
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Hmm I've always wanted to try The Cardiacs. What album should I begin with?


I'll provide two tracks here.  If you like the first one more, start with A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window, and if you like the second, start with Sing to God (they're both available on iTunes, with Sing to God being in two parts, both necessary IMO).





If you don't like either one...run away!!! LOL
Okay, thanks!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:44
I'm glad you did do this topic, because of it I'm revisiting Cardiacs' music, and will be delving deeper into the band's music. Aside from discovering new-to-me music, one thing I love about such topics is that they can prompt me to re-listen to music I haven't heard in quite a while. 

Edited by Logan - August 31 2010 at 14:45
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Gotta say, I really dig both. I think I may prefer the first slightly more.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'm glad you did, because of it I'm revisiting Cardiacs' music, and will be delving deeper into the band's music. Aside from discovering new-to-me music, one thing I love about such topics is that they can prompt me to re-listen to music I haven't heard in quite a while. 

Well I suppose we can indirectly thank both Trouserpress and Rune2000 as well then, because Rune2000's review of Sing to God was what got me to listen to them again recently, when I really fell in love with that album, and TP recommended me an order in which to check out the rest of their material (which I've done thanks to iTunes) which really made the music grab me even tighter.
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Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Gotta say, I really dig both. I think I may prefer the first slightly more.

Then either would probably be a good starting point.  If you're going for cost-effectiveness (in case you don't like the band or something) I'd say A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window since it's only one disc and therefore only $9.99 on iTunes instead of StG's two discs and 2x $9.99.
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'm glad you did, because of it I'm revisiting Cardiacs' music, and will be delving deeper into the band's music. Aside from discovering new-to-me music, one thing I love about such topics is that they can prompt me to re-listen to music I haven't heard in quite a while. 

Well I suppose we can indirectly thank both Trouserpress and Rune2000 as well then, because Rune2000's review of Sing to God was what got me to listen to them again recently, when I really fell in love with that album, and TP recommended me an order in which to check out the rest of their material (which I've done thanks to iTunes) which really made the music grab me even tighter.


 I knew Cardiacs' music before joining PA, but Trouserpress' abundant enthusiasm got me into exploring it more after I joined PA. I don't often look at PA reviews , but I have noted that Rune has written good reviews of much music I really like. I had read Alexander's (Rune2000) review of Sing to God before because there was a topic where someone was, as I recall, slamming Cardiacs and I was looking up the reviews of the albums (perhaps there was a reported review for Sing to God? A few years ago I would have remembered such things easily, but my memory loss is another topic.  Maybe I was just looking into some rater's ratings since a low rating of something piqued my interest).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SaltyJon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 15:14
Yeah, it wasn't even reading the review that got me to listen to it again, but I saw the album art and felt like listening to it.  As I was listening the other day, I did read the review though, and enjoyed it.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 15:27
Cardiacs must be better than Magma, but i won't vote.
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never heard the cardiacs so no vote for me!
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