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Nipsey88
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Topic: Tasavallan Presidentti Posted: June 08 2005 at 02:28 |
Wow, I just got a copy of their 1972 release 'Lambertland' and I am
absolutely blown away. Any comments? Agreements and flames equally
welcome, I'm just pleased as punch that you've actually heard of these
guys.
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Matti
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 03:32 |
TP is definitely the cream of Finnish prog, along with Wigwam (and there are quite many Finnish bands in the archives that even I don't know). Glad you like Lambertland, it's my TP favourite too - I should get a hold of it again, haven't heard it for years. Some say they don't like it because of the singer Jussi Raittinen but I think he fits very well. (In earlier albums the singer is British Frank Robson, equally good.)
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Nipsey88
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 03:53 |
Matti wrote:
TP is definitely the cream of Finnish prog, along with
Wigwam (and there are quite many Finnish bands in the archives that
even I don't know). Glad you like Lambertland,
it's my TP favourite too - I should get a hold of it again, haven't
heard it for years. Some say they don't like it because of the singer
Jussi Raittinen but I think he fits very well. (In earlier albums the
singer is British Frank Robson, equally good.) |
Glad you mentioned Wigwam, They are one of my new faves, especially
Fairyport. Awesome stuff. Through this band I discovered Pekka Pohjola's
Harrakka Bialoipokku, one of my new favorite albums.
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Jimbo
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 05:30 |
Yeah, "Lambertland" is one of my favorite albums from Finland. Awesome
stuff! Wigwam and Pekka Pohjola are great too! I'm glad that someone
not coming from Finland has heard these albums
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Nipsey88
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 05:40 |
WiguJimbo wrote:
Yeah, "Lambertland" is one of my favorite albums from Finland. Awesome
stuff! Wigwam and Pekka Pohjola are great too! I'm glad that someone
not coming from Finland has heard these albums
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Man I am glad to hear from a Finn about these bands!
Recently I have come across all this great Finnish prog: Wigwam, Hidria
Spacefolk, Pekka, TP, et al... I just wish that the US had similar
stuff to offer in trade...
Ive been saving up to come to Europe this fall to see the countries and to hopefully see some money Euro-prog.
Were coming to Iceland first, but then I hope to come to Scandanavia to
see the beautiful country first, but again, to see some music, what
else can you recommend?
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Jimbo
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 05:57 |
From Finland, I would say Haikara's first album (very original, a mix between King Crimson and Tasavallan Presidentti), Höyry-Kone's both albums are excellent! (somewhat similar to Magma and KC, but they are totally crazy), Kingston Wall's second album (no doubt, Hidria Spacefolk were heavily influenced by them, see my reviews)..
From Sweden, you should at least check out Samla Mammas Manna (RIO group, Zappa meets swedish folk music and some weird circus-music can be heard too! excellent stuff), Anekdoten (a very good band, clearly influenced by Wetton-Bruford-Fripp era King Crimson).
From Denmark you should check out Secret Oyster (very interesting jazz/fusion)
Good luck!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 06:07 |
Wigwam and TP had parallel carreers and most of TP ended up in Wigwam. Best TP is Lambertland and best Wigwam is Being.
Both were extremely important in Finnish prog , but my fave Finns are Haikara, who were 70's most original finnish band. Their first two are classic albums.
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Nipsey88
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 06:08 |
WiguJimbo wrote:
From Finland, I would say Haikara's first album (very original, a mix between King Crimson and Tasavallan Presidentti), Höyry-Kone's both albums are excellent! (somewhat similar to Magma and KC, but they are totally crazy), Kingston Wall's second album (no doubt, Hidria Spacefolk were heavily influenced by them, see my reviews)..
From Sweden, you should at least check out Samla Mammas Manna (RIO group, Zappa meets swedish folk music and some weird circus-music can be heard too! excellent stuff), Anekdoten (a very good band, clearly influenced by Wetton-Bruford-Fripp era King Crimson).
From Denmark you should check out Secred Oyster (very interesting jazz/fusion)
Good luck!
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Ive been searching for Haikara but havent found it yet, sounds great.
Ive got all of Kingston Walls stuff (awesome). Anekdoten I have as
well, I like it but Im not insane for it, Samla... Ive heard and like,
need to buy more, and Secret Oyster, Ive heard of but never heard,
still looking. And as far as Hoyry-Kone goes, I will certianly look
into it.
Thanks!
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Nipsey88
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 06:13 |
P.S. my fave Wigwam stuff is Fairyport, Being (great!!), and Tombstone Valentine.
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Jimbo
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 06:22 |
Oh! I almost forgot! Alamaailman Vasarat's "Käärmelautakunta" is also worth checking out, and so is Uzva's "Niittoaika", although their debut is very good too.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 11:56 |
Pekka has a few good solos in the 70's and dont forget Ragnarok's first. Bengt Berger's(sweden) Bitter Beer Funeral from the 80's is very interesting and suggested if you can find a copy. Thor's Hammer and Old Man and the Sea(denmark) are more hard rockish as is Aunt Mary's(norway) Jadis. A pretty healthy movement here in the early to mid 70's. Nordic suggestions Samla Mammas Manna - Matlid, Klossa Knapitatet, Snorungarnas Symfoni Wigwam - Being, but may want to try Fairyport first Secret Oyster - Straight to the Krankenhaus, Sea Son Ragnarok - same Bo Hansson - Lord of the Rings Pekka Pohjola - Visitation or one of his two early albums the best are just as original as the top english progressive bands from the 70's though limited in output.
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Eemu Ranta
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 12:03 |
Excellent recommendations everyone! Good to see Finland's music appriciated by non-Finns aswell
I don't have much to add, except TP's second self-titled (aka 'II') which is warmly recommended.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 07:53 |
Nipsey88 wrote:
Wow, I just got a copy of their 1972 release 'Lambertland' and I am absolutely blown away. Any comments? Agreements and flames equally welcome, I'm just pleased as punch that you've actually heard of these guys. |
Got it on vinyl in a dumper bin in 1973, replaced with the Love Records CD as soon as that was available - simply it is my all time top 20 jazz rock albums. Indeed, played Lounge at the end of my radio show last week.
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Nipsey88
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Posted: June 11 2005 at 01:16 |
WiguJimbo wrote:
From Finland, I would say Haikara's first album (very original, a mix between King Crimson and Tasavallan Presidentti), Höyry-Kone's both albums are excellent! (somewhat similar to Magma and KC, but they are totally crazy), Kingston Wall's second album (no doubt, Hidria Spacefolk were heavily influenced by them, see my reviews)..
From Sweden, you should at least check out Samla Mammas Manna (RIO group, Zappa meets swedish folk music and some weird circus-music can be heard too! excellent stuff), Anekdoten (a very good band, clearly influenced by Wetton-Bruford-Fripp era King Crimson).
From Denmark you should check out Secret Oyster (very interesting jazz/fusion)
Good luck!
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WiguJimbo, thanks sooo much for recommending Höyry-Kone to
me! I just got the Huono Parturi album and I absolutely love it! Man, I
only wish I new what they were saying (especially on the awesome
operatic first track). Please all, thanks so much, and keep those
recommendations coming!
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Nipsey88
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Posted: June 11 2005 at 01:27 |
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Jimbo
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Posted: June 11 2005 at 04:01 |
Nipsey88 wrote:
WiguJimbo wrote:
From Finland, I would say Haikara's first album (very original, a mix between King Crimson and Tasavallan Presidentti), Höyry-Kone's both albums are excellent! (somewhat similar to Magma and KC, but they are totally crazy), Kingston Wall's second album (no doubt, Hidria Spacefolk were heavily influenced by them, see my reviews)..
From Sweden, you should at least check out Samla Mammas Manna (RIO group, Zappa meets swedish folk music and some weird circus-music can be heard too! excellent stuff), Anekdoten (a very good band, clearly influenced by Wetton-Bruford-Fripp era King Crimson).
From Denmark you should check out Secret Oyster (very interesting jazz/fusion)
Good luck!
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WiguJimbo, thanks sooo much for recommending Höyry-Kone to
me! I just got the Huono Parturi album and I absolutely love it! Man, I
only wish I new what they were saying (especially on the awesome
operatic first track). Please all, thanks so much, and keep those
recommendations coming!
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No problem . I'm glad you like it .
Yeah, their lyrics were pretty strange, especially on their first album
"Hyönteisiä Voi Rakastaa" (It Is Possible To Love Insects) .
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