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    Posted: October 04 2010 at 23:16
Sir Normam Wisdom died yesterday, may he rest in peace.



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I loved Norman's films when i was a kid, the little man against the establishment and bringing it crashing down , though i still laugh at the masterly slapstick comedy today, when you think about it he is a huge influence on today's comedians.  My favourite films  "Trouble in Store", "Press for Time", "The Square Peg". "Bulldog Breed""On the Beat", loads of them especially "The Early Bird". 
 
 
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'Bulldog Breed' is an absolute classic film of its type.

That said, when the BBC show a retrospective of his work (as I'm sure they will), I hope they show 1978's 'Going Gently', which showed what a good straight actor he was, too.



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Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

...when you think about it he is a huge influence on today's comedians


A certain Lee Evans in particular I think; his onstage slapstick is pure Norman Wisdom (as I'm sure he would admit)

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as far as I know, Mr. Wisdom never made it across the pond.. may he rest in peace anyway

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Rest in peace, Comrade Pitkin...
 
Like George Formby he was adored behind the iron curtain. For some reason I picture him going to meet his maker with a carefree saunter, blissfully oblivious of the open manhole just ahead. It's the way he would have wanted to go.
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I was never a great fan. Sad to see him go though.

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

'Bulldog Breed' is an absolute classic film of its type.

That said, when the BBC show a retrospective of his work (as I'm sure they will), I hope they show 1978's 'Going Gently', which showed what a good straight actor he was, too.



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Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

...when you think about it he is a huge influence on today's comedians


A certain Lee Evans in particular I think; his onstage slapstick is pure Norman Wisdom (as I'm sure he would admit)


His last film was 1969's What's Good for Goose.  Mmmmm Sally Geeson.

Oh and Lee Evans is nowhere near as amusing.


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I haven't even heard of a single movie this man was in. Huh.
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I haven't even heard of a single movie this man was in. Huh.

Yeah. We make films in Britain too.
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I never found him very funny, but I liked him. I only found out recently he was an aspiring jazz drummer too. RIP...

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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I never found him very funny, but I liked him. I only found out recently he was an aspiring jazz drummer too. RIP...


His films are all pretty crap imo.Wink
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

'Bulldog Breed' is an absolute classic film of its type.

That said, when the BBC show a retrospective of his work (as I'm sure they will), I hope they show 1978's 'Going Gently', which showed what a good straight actor he was, too.



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Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

...when you think about it he is a huge influence on today's comedians


A certain Lee Evans in particular I think; his onstage slapstick is pure Norman Wisdom (as I'm sure he would admit)


His last film was 1969's What's Good for Goose.  Mmmmm Sally Geeson.

Oh and Lee Evans is nowhere near as amusing.

Lee Evans is absulutely much funnier than Norman Wisdom
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^ without Norman Wisdom there would be no Lee Evans Tongue
 
 
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I haven't even heard of a single movie this man was in. Huh.
Not even The Night They Raided Minsky's?
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I don't believe that I have ever heard of him or saw anything that he was in either.  I'm not much for movies made in different languages Wink though so that might have something to do with it.
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Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

^ without Norman Wisdom there would be no Lee Evans Tongue
 
 
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I don't see what difference that makes. Even if it were true.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

^ without Norman Wisdom there would be no Lee Evans Tongue
 

 

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I don't see what difference that makes. Even if it were true.


I think the point is of all the comedians Wisdom influenced during his life, Lee Evans is the most obvious example; you only have to see his live shows & the body language/movement/pratfalls, even the facial expressions are pure Norman Wisdom (although I don't think NW said f**k quite so much in his movies )

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

^ without Norman Wisdom there would be no Lee Evans Tongue
 

 

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I don't see what difference that makes. Even if it were true.


I think the point is of all the comedians Wisdom influenced during his life, Lee Evans is the most obvious example; you only have to see his live shows & the body language/movement/pratfalls, even the facial expressions are pure Norman Wisdom (although I don't think NW said f**k quite so much in his movies )

He wasn't as funny either, but thats JUST opinion obviously. Besides Wisdom appealed to an entirely different generation. Don't misunderstand, I am saddened by his death and I DO appreciate his skills. 
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I never found him very funny, but I liked him. I only found out recently he was an aspiring jazz drummer too. RIP...


His films are all pretty crap imo.Wink


That's the charm of them though.  Besides, they don't date well.  Much like George Formby films.  I happen to enjoy both.  I also like Ealing Comedies.

They just don't make films like that any more (and don't come back by saying "there's a reason for that..." either Wink).  It's mostly crass action movies now with excess violence and/or sex in them.
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