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Posted: October 16 2010 at 12:29
I have watched some documentaries about Norman. A truly once in a century man which cannot be described in words. Yes, his comedy films are outdated and not the best. But his many talents still shines through. No doubts he was one of those characters who put the Great in to Great Britain.
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 03:04
James wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I never found him very funny, but I liked him. I only found out recently he was an aspiring jazz drummer too. RIP...
His films are all pretty crap imo.
That's the charm of them though. Besides, they don't date well. Much like George Formby films. I happen to enjoy both. I also like Ealing Comedies.
They just don't make films like that any more (and don't come back by saying "there's a reason for that..." either ). It's mostly crass action movies now with excess violence and/or sex in them.
agreed....and the "feelgood" movies are too syrupy, saw "Some Like It Hot" on TV last week and what a masterpiece that film is, and modern remakes of various past movies really don't work at all.
The Ealing comedies are mini masterpieces and that British "Cottage industry" tradition has been continued with films like "Brassed Off", "Bend it like Beckham", and "Full Monty", looking forward to "Made in Dagenham" about the strike at the Ford factory by Women for equal pay, factual events very publicised in the 60's.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 21:14
Snow Dog wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I never found him very funny, but I liked him. I only found out recently he was an aspiring jazz drummer too. RIP...
His films are all pretty crap imo.
That's the charm of them though. Besides, they don't date well. Much like George Formby films. I happen to enjoy both. I also like Ealing Comedies.
They just don't make films like that any more (and don't come back by saying "there's a reason for that..." either ). It's mostly crass action movies now with excess violence and/or sex in them.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 04:00
Jim Garten wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
mystic fred wrote:
^ without Norman Wisdom there would be no Lee Evans
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I don't see what difference that makes. Even if it were true.
I think the point is of all the comedians Wisdom influenced during his life, Lee Evans is the most obvious example; you only have to see his live shows & the body language/movement/pratfalls, even the facial expressions are pure Norman Wisdom (although I don't think NW said f**k quite so much in his movies )
He wasn't as funny either, but thats JUST opinion obviously. Besides Wisdom appealed to an entirely different generation. Don't misunderstand, I am saddened by his death and I DO appreciate his skills.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 03:35
Snow Dog wrote:
mystic fred wrote:
^ without Norman Wisdom there would be no Lee Evans
.
I don't see what difference that makes. Even if it were true.
I think the point is of all the comedians Wisdom influenced during his life, Lee Evans is the most obvious example; you only have to see his live shows & the body language/movement/pratfalls, even the facial expressions are pure Norman Wisdom (although I don't think NW said f**k quite so much in his movies )
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 15:32
I don't believe that I have ever heard of him or saw anything that he was in either. I'm not much for movies made in different languages though so that might have something to do with it.
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 06:03
James wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
'Bulldog Breed' is an absolute classic film of its type.
That said, when the BBC show a retrospective of his work (as I'm sure they will), I hope they show 1978's 'Going Gently', which showed what a good straight actor he was, too.
Norman Wisdom - one of the greats - RIP
mystic fred wrote:
...when you think about it he is a huge influence on today's comedians
A certain Lee Evans in particular I think; his onstage slapstick is pure Norman Wisdom (as I'm sure he would admit)
His last film was 1969's What's Good for Goose. Mmmmm Sally Geeson.
Oh and Lee Evans is nowhere near as amusing.
Lee Evans is absulutely much funnier than Norman Wisdom
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Posted: October 05 2010 at 19:52
Jim Garten wrote:
'Bulldog Breed' is an absolute classic film of its type.
That said, when the BBC show a retrospective of his work (as I'm sure they will), I hope they show 1978's 'Going Gently', which showed what a good straight actor he was, too.
Norman Wisdom - one of the greats - RIP
mystic fred wrote:
...when you think about it he is a huge influence on today's comedians
A certain Lee Evans in particular I think; his onstage slapstick is pure Norman Wisdom (as I'm sure he would admit)
His last film was 1969's What's Good for Goose. Mmmmm Sally Geeson.
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