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Icarium
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Topic: Supertramp vs Toto Posted: October 10 2010 at 06:19 |
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as some might have guest these are my two favourite bands, they are special to me, for different reasons
Supertramp for their songwriting skills and production, and uniqueness in style
Toto for their skills on their instruments and for their share will to never give up even if hammerd by music crittics they never layed down their sword.
both were revieved in 2010 also
so I put them upp against eachother, whom will win this epic battle
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lucas
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 07:43 | ||||||||
Can't decide : both. |
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 08:00 | ||||||||
Of the only albums I have of each of them I prefer Crime over the Dune soundtrack.
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Icarium
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 08:05 | ||||||||
I have yet to find the Dune soundtrack in any record-store, nether in the artist section nor the movie score section
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 08:44 | ||||||||
I got it mail order. I don't know if these guys ship to Norway:
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Icarium
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 08:52 | ||||||||
this is magnifecant sountrack both Eno and Toto
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lucas
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 09:34 | ||||||||
Dune is not very representative of Toto's music. It's like chosing 'flash' in a discussion about Queen.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Icarium
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 09:38 | ||||||||
^ yeah i know it is just cool music and epic songs, which probably helped the band to expand their sound and explore new textures and techniques, just listen to the arangements between Toto IV, Isolation and Fahrenheit you defenitly hear a progression in terms of production, instrumentation and arrangements
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Lozlan
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 10:43 | ||||||||
Supertramp all the way. I used to be a big Toto fan in my younger years, and I still flirt with their first three albums on occasion (Hydra was their masterpiece, in my opinion), but Supertramp manage to sustain their respectability, whereas Toto went so completely pop that it's really difficult for me to connect their later to their earlier work. Everything from Toto IV on was just dreck...in my humble opinion, of course.
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lucas
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 11:07 | ||||||||
Everything from Toto IV on was
Fixed Have you listened to the seventh one, kingdom of desire, tambu, mindfields. Fahrenheit and Isolation are more 'pop' oriented, but they are nonetheless masterpieces of AOR.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Lozlan
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 11:40 | ||||||||
I actually had their entire discography, including Kingdom of Desire (which was really difficult to find at the time!); it's all still burned into my iTunes, though I haven't wandered that way in quite a while. I will confess to having a very soft spot for The Seventh One, but I always thought Tambu and Fahrenheit and Isolation etc. were kind of unlistenable. Also, I know that Toto IV was their tremendous breakthrough, but I could never enjoy it. FAR too slick. I much preferred Turn Back, Hydra, and the impressive self-titled (sans Georgy Porgy!). You know what? It's time for a Toto listening party. At the very least it'll be a blast from the past. |
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Icarium
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 19:00 | ||||||||
best version of Africa I have heard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VX1raWoWck&feature=related
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 19:08 | ||||||||
I would suspect as much, but it is the only Toto, I knowoh, other than the radio hits down in Africa.... |
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Icarium
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 19:16 | ||||||||
this is so sweet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAEQ9C3i6ro&feature=related
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Chris S
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 19:31 | ||||||||
Toto do not even feature IMHO :-) Awful awful stuff.
Apologies if I offended anyone
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lucas
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 20:37 | ||||||||
^
could you please explain why it is "awful" ?
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Chris S
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 20:44 | ||||||||
^ Purely subjective, I dislike their music, their sound, all sounds very 80's glam rock to me, even the Dune soundtrack not my style. Lucas I realize this response will not suffice but if the early polls are any indicator there are zero Toto votes with almost 70% plugging The Tramp :-)
But I have said my little piece and will let you guys enjoy the post, I will keep a lookout for any Supetramp discussion points though.
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Intruder
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 05:59 | ||||||||
A buddy of mine was the drum tech for Jeff Porcaro during during the late 70s.....the same guy had assisted Keltner, Gordon, St. John (Neil Diamond's drummer) and even Ron Tutt over the years. He said that NOBODY he worked with could match the skill that Porcaro had. Said that whole band were just amazing musicians....could play even the most complex charts effortlessly. But he HATED their music.....glossy pop love songs that squandered their talents. He also used to joke that Porcaro didn't use a coke spoon, he used a coke shovel. That's what finally killed him.
Drugs have a lot to answer for, eh?
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Icarium
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 11:02 | ||||||||
^ Hydra, Goodbye Elanore, White Sister, Carmen, Isolation, Kingdom of Desire, Jake to the Bone are not glossy pop songs
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crimhead
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 11:25 | ||||||||
I'm surprised that Tramp is doing so well on this poll with all the smack they usually get in other polls. Is Toto that disliked on here?
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