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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2014 at 15:26
Some Joe's Camouflage info (no, it hasn't arrived yet):
 
Tracklisting:

1. Phyniox ( Take 1) 2:29
2. T’Mershi Duween 2:28
3. Reeny Ra 4:13
4. “Who Do You Think You Are” 1:39
5. “Slack ‘Em All Down” 1:26
6. Honey, Don’t You Want A Man Like Me? 4:16
7. The Illinois Enema Bandit 6:27
8. Sleep Dirt - In Rehearsal 1:08
9. Black Napkins 8:12
10. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance 1:55
11. Denny & Froggy Relate :31
12. “Choose Your Foot” 1:20
13. Any Downers? 6:11
14. Phyniox ( Take 2) 4:18
15. “I Heard A Note!” 1:20

TT 47:54
 
Probable lineup:
 
FZ: guitar and vocals
Napoleon Murphy Brock: keyboards, sax, and vocals
Robert "Frog" Camarena: guitar and vocals
Denny Walley: slide guitar and vocals
Novi Novog: viola and vocals
Roy Estrada: bass and vocals
Terry Bozzio: drums and vocals
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2014 at 19:32
I honestly can't remember what albums/shows that NJ is referenced. Doing the chronological run, you notice a lot of little details in the music or the dialogue. I noticed the NJ references, but only now did I bring it up, since I'm up to 1984 era of Zappa, and NJ references keep coming up. But I haven't returned to any albums or shows, I just keep forging on, so I can't recall where else it's mentioned.

What I can remember off the top of my head:

The Berkeley performance 1984 - Frank makes a joke about New Jersey.

Just Another Band From L.A. - In Billy The Mountain, Flo and Eddie mention "Atlantic City, NEW JOISEEYYY!!!"

Halloween - recorded in Pasaic, New Jersey, I think Frank makes a wise crack about the state.

I want to say one of the late 70s albums mentions NJ, but I can't recall.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2014 at 16:17
Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:



Some Joe's Camouflage info (no, it hasn't arrived yet):
 
<span ="track">Tracklisting:</span>         1. Phyniox ( Take 1) <span ="timing">2:29</span>         2. T’Mershi Duween <span ="timing">2:28</span>         3. Reeny Ra <span ="timing">4:13</span>         4. “Who Do You Think You Are” <span ="timing">1:39</span>         5. “Slack ‘Em All Down” <span ="timing">1:26</span>         6. Honey, Don’t You Want A Man Like Me? <span ="timing">4:16</span>         7. The Illinois Enema Bandit <span ="timing">6:27</span>         8. Sleep Dirt - In Rehearsal <span ="timing">1:08</span>         9. Black Napkins <span ="timing">8:12</span>         10. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance <span ="timing">1:55</span>         11. Denny & Froggy Relate <span ="timing">:31</span>         12. “Choose Your Foot” <span ="timing">1:20</span>         13. Any Downers? <span ="timing">6:11</span>         14. Phyniox ( Take 2) <span ="timing">4:18</span>         15. “I Heard A Note!” <span ="timing">1:20</span><span ="timing">TT 47:54</span>
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<span ="timing">Probable lineup:</span>
<span ="timing"></span> 
<span ="timing">FZ: guitar and vocals Napoleon Murphy Brock: keyboards, sax, and vocals
Robert "Frog" Camarena: guitar and vocals Denny Walley: slide guitar and
vocals Novi Novog: viola and vocals Roy Estrada: bass and vocals
Terry Bozzio: drums and vocals</span>
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Hmm...interesting.

Still need to hear opinions...nothing here jumps out to me as essential. (Though nothing necessarily jumps out as crap)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2014 at 16:17
Yikes...that quote came out quite badly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2014 at 16:55

Heard this one yesterday. The sound is not very good, but the music is.

http://www.amazon.com/Electric-Aunt-Jemima-Frank-Zappa/dp/B001CBJRAA/ref=sr_1_55?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1391554211&sr=1-55&keywords=zappa
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2014 at 14:26
Yea, Electirc Aunt Jemima is a great early 60s fusion album (but not released until early 90s)

Here's the cover art for Joe's Camouflage
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2014 at 23:58
New Jersey is brought up in The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing.

NJ seems to come up a bunch during Thing-Fish.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2014 at 17:49
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:



Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:


Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

^ Nice. The Real Frank Zappa Book is a great read. An original vinyl print of Uncle Meat?

yeah!
Here's some pics of it. Sorry about the low quality, this is the only camera I haveawesome booklet! Includes sheet music of King Kong and Uncle MeatAlso, here's an 09 reissue of Trout Mask Replica on Zappa's very own Straight label
                    
                  
              
            
          
       
      
I also am happy to own a mint original 'Uncle Meat' (with side 1 & 4 together, and side 2 & 3 together) though unfortunately no accompanying booklet
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2014 at 06:42
I just got back into Zappa recently, forgot how incredible this dude is. Think I might pick up that Uncle Meat vinyl reissue. Does anyone know if any of his other stuff will be reissued on wax?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2014 at 20:17
I received my copy of Joe's Camouflage today.
I haven't quite gotten through the whole album yet, but here are some thoughts:
 
It may be the best of the Joe's series.
The sound quality is decent, considering it was recorded on cassette originally, although "Honey, Don't You Want A Man Like Me?" is an awful recording.
 
"T'Mershi Duween" sounds very different.  "Sleep Dirt" also sounds different played by a full band. 
"Any Downers" at that point was just one riff played incessantly.
 
To a Zappahead like myself it is a treat. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2014 at 17:56
^ Interesting. Sleep Dirt by a full band does sound intriguing.

As much as I consider myself a full on zappaphile I still get weary at all these Joe's releases.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2014 at 06:32
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

^ Interesting. Sleep Dirt by a full band does sound intriguing.

As much as I consider myself a full on zappaphile I still get weary at all these Joe's releases.
 
I buy them because I can't bear not to.
But the bits and pieces nature of them does make me resent that they charge full price, plus their bloated shipping fee for them.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2014 at 06:38
By the way, last month, the ZFT sent:
 
"Suddenly for every Roxy reason possible it seemed imperative to make the actual Roxy By Proxy release truly special by offering this exceptionally entertaining audio aperitif. For those of you that ordered the Roxy By Proxy all those eons ago and even up til now, you can land Joe's Camouflage at a discount. Keep an eye on your email inboxes. Details will follow. "
 
How the f*** does this make the RBP release "special".  And no offer for a discount has come yet.  With this group's reliability, I wasn't going to hold my breath, not for a measily few dollars.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2014 at 20:25
Oh, at this point, RBP is "special" all right.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2014 at 19:03
I think the most enjoyable, fun, and energetic synclavier pieces are on Meets the Mothers of Prevention. There's something about them that I like, maybe the juxtaposition between the rock tracks.

Oh, and What's New In Baltimore in now my new favorite Zappa tune, the guitar solo is beautiful, and makes me feel sad, yet happy.

Maybe I could make a good rock star, I don't know. LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2014 at 02:12
I've always found Meets The Mothers... slightly underrated. No classic, but still pretty damn good and enjoyable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2014 at 14:46
Here we are at yet another supposed shipping date for RBP, with no indication of any activity.  Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2014 at 23:34
Maybe they are too busy shipping the discs to update you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2014 at 09:51
New shipping date is Friday, Feb 21.
Only bumped it a week this time.
Either they are actually getting closer, or they enjoy f***ing with the faithful fans.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2014 at 13:38
I think we all know the answer to that one.
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