Phil Collins says something I didn't expect

Not terribly surprising.  His favorite track on <b>Lamb</b> is "The Waiting Room."  Phil is a man with eclectic taste who happens to have little taste when writing music on his own.

lazland wrote: Evolver wrote: lazland wrote: Oh well, more Phil bashing. Lest we forget, he was the drummer in one of the all time (some say ALL TIME) greatest prog bands of all time, and was, latterly, the singer and a writer. In other words, an integral part of the band, not a bit part player. Why the hell wouldn't he be proud of this song and of his band? Phil  [On bands copying Genesis]:" I wouldn`t wish it upon anybody to try and be successful in this day and age being a parody of a band nobody likes anyway." He's right, in the context of the modern music media, surely? These days, you need to be a bunch of goons paradying a pile of crap on Simon Cowell's shows, mumble obscenities into a mic, or pretend you're hard and indy in order to get any publicity or mass record sales. You wouldn't get that by copying Genesis, I'm afraid. That's why a lot of modern prog is called "cult" by the media. Thus, this was a comment on the media, not his band. Give the guy a break, eh?

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lazland wrote: Oh well, more Phil bashing. Lest we forget, he was the drummer in one of the all time (some say ALL TIME) greatest prog bands of all time, and was, latterly, the singer and a writer. In other words, an integral part of the band, not a bit part player. Why the hell wouldn't he be proud of this song and of his band?

^ Hell, I still don't like Genesis nearly as much as the other bands that were around at the time. If you want an example of a prog act that was actually really well-known while they were still being innovative, look no further than Yes, ''The people's band''. 

Blacksword wrote: sigod wrote: [QUOTE=Blacksword] I guess he just prefers performing Motown music. I quite like Motown, but when Collins re-works those old classics, it just doesn't work for me at all. They are pale and weak immitations of how that music should be performed and produced. Good to see you on here again Simon. Hope all is well sir.

Fine and dandy mate. Still fighting the good fight I see.

lazland wrote: Oh well, more Phil bashing. Lest we forget, he was the drummer in one of the all time (some say ALL TIME) greatest prog bands of all time, and was, latterly, the singer and a writer. In other words, an integral part of the band, not a bit part player. Why the hell wouldn't he be proud of this song and of his band?

Indifferent to what Phil says, he's the best, Of course he was better as a solo artist, but he doesn't deny his participation in Genesis and even has positive remarks on it. So God bless Phill.

darksideof wrote: is it true all this stuff you guys are writing about Phill? I am a pretty huge Genesis fan since I was 14 Years. I had never read numerous and I even have few Genesis Documentary  on videos Have a Genesis  boigraphy and I still haven''t ready anything Phil said bashing early Genesis prog  albums. Totally the opossite. can you guys post the link of these interviews? ohh the only think I remember he said was that they were tired of playing long songs and old songs. That The band needed to change their  direction. that all!

I accept the possibility that in hindsight he may have come around and changed his attitude to the old Genesis stuff, but in an interview for a Genesis retrospective, back when they were in their pop phase, all of the notorious three were very dismissive to the old fans.   I can kind of understand it because a lot of old fans were dismissive of the newer Genesis stuff.  I took an interest in the band right after Hackett left and stayed with them for a while, getting their new albums, but eventually got tired of them.  I never got the Mama album and Invisible Touch would be last one I would get when it first came out.  To date I've only replaced my vinyls up to and including Abacab.  I did try Calling All Stations, but only because the CDs are available really cheap.