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    Posted: November 24 2010 at 18:31
What do you prefer? Extreme Metal with Heavy Growl's and screaming? Or Clean classic Vocals that don't scare me as much? Lol.

I prefer Clean. I'm a classic rock kinda guy. And I like modern prog, but I can't stand the Death Growl. It sounds really bad imo. I love to DT and Tool, (no screaming), I love Animals as Leaders (no words at all). But If I go anywhere else, Symphony X, Periphery, Cynic, I just have to shut it off as soon as they start... singing if you could call it that.

SO yeah, for you Modern Progressive Metal fans, what do you like?

P.S. I'm sure this question has been raised before.
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Symphony X growling, wait what?


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Post Options Post Options   Quote TheOppenheimer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 19:18
I like both, but I prefer them according to the setting.
Some prog metal pieces would sound to calm or passive with clean vocals, while others may sound too harsh with growls.

But, I have to admit, I love Agalloch - mixing both for post-prog-folk-doom-metal pieces.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rogerthat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 19:26
All my favourite singers are clean but if you mean by clean the surfeit of masculine angels these days, then rather death growls than that.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mushroom Sword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 19:47
Originally posted by JonteJH

Symphony X growling, wait what?


Early stuff, no. But have you heard there last album?

Yeah, even that annoys me. And I love the album (for the instrumental sections).

Boris the Spider by The Who makes me want to shoot myself.


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Clean all the way for me:) I think Opeth would be amazing if Akerfeld sang cleanly! I can't take the cookie monster growls seriously and it ruins the music.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote beebs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 20:03

 It took me quite awhile while listening to BTBAM, but I'm to the point where I'd rather hear a growling singer like Tommy Rogers than a screeching, high-pitched whine of a voice. And they're out there.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JonteJH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 20:58
I really love growls, Periphery, Meshuggah and my favorite Devin Townsend.. damn i could kill for that voice.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jake Kobrin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 21:23
I don't think there's anyone that actually prefers one or the other... They each serve their purpose. 

For example, Yes would sound AWFUL with growling, but Jon Anderson's vocals would probably sound out of place in Morbid Angel... 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mushroom Sword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 21:38
Originally posted by Jake Kobrin

I don't think there's anyone that actually prefers one or the other... They each serve their purpose. 

For example, Yes would sound AWFUL with growling, but Jon Anderson's vocals would probably sound out of place in Morbid Angel... 


Well yeah, I actually do prefer clean over the growl. Can't stand it. And that's apples and oranges. One's soft classic symphonic rock. The other is extreme metal. Jon Anderson couldn't sing metal. Have you seen DT's cover of Time? LaBrie sings rock very poorly.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 22:00
Originally posted by Wanorak

Clean all the way for me:) I think Opeth would be amazing if Akerfeld sang cleanly! I can't take the cookie monster growls seriously and it ruins the music.


Exactly this. There's some other bands, not so progressive, which I also like very much, but it's growling just ruins the experience for me.
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Originally posted by Mushroom Sword

Originally posted by Jake Kobrin

I don't think there's anyone that actually prefers one or the other... They each serve their purpose. 

For example, Yes would sound AWFUL with growling, but Jon Anderson's vocals would probably sound out of place in Morbid Angel... 


Well yeah, I actually do prefer clean over the growl. Can't stand it. And that's apples and oranges. One's soft classic symphonic rock. The other is extreme metal. Jon Anderson couldn't sing metal. Have you seen DT's cover of Time? LaBrie sings rock very poorly.

Well yeah, that's what I'm saying. Apples and Oranges. I don't think anyone would want to growl in symphonic prog. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 22:06
Originally posted by Jake Kobrin

I don't think there's anyone that actually prefers one or the other... They each serve their purpose. 
For example, Yes would sound AWFUL with growling, but Jon Anderson's vocals would probably sound out of place in Morbid Angel... 


O yes, I'm pretty sure there are lot's of people (me included) who not only prefer clean vocals, but even can't stand growling. On the other hand, there are many hardcore metalheads who just can't listen to music without growls, and even despise it as "too soft" or "music for girls" or whatever they may come to think.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote anoblesoul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 22:10
I definitely prefer clean vocals. I can tolerate growls when there are other things to like, like Sirenia or Leaves Eyes, but I can't say I ever like it
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mastosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 22:22
I prefer clean vocals only because they're easier to sing along to and I'm a sucker for a kick-ass melody, but growling definitely has a place, too. You gots to have the light & shade!
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I like the midway point, filthy gruff vocals like the guy from Isis's "clean" vocals, or the guy from Baroness

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Lozlan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 22:36
I've never, ever been capable of listening to growler vocalists.  As a lyric-focused listener, it's usually pretty important to me that I can understand what's being warbled.  Moreover, I find the deep, sepulchral snarls of most metal bands to be deeply unsettling.  I feel like I'm plummeting through the earth's crust into some sort of Hieronymus Bosch-esque hellscape. 

But seriously, no disrespect to the growl fanciers.
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I don't like standardised things, Standards arethe countrary of progressive. I like Riverside's growling and I don't like too much the clean voice of Artension but what matters is that the two things are functional to the song, not to the genre. Can we consider Pink Floyd's One of These Days the first example of growling?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mushroom Sword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 23:44
Originally posted by octopus-4

I don't like standardised things, Standards arethe countrary of progressive. I like Riverside's growling and I don't like too much the clean voice of Artension but what matters is that the two things are functional to the song, not to the genre. Can we consider Pink Floyd's One of These Days the first example of growling?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8dSBWysmnM


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2010 at 23:47
Certainly a music period question...my kids listen to screamo and some growling but mainly screamo. The problem with both (mainly growling) is I have no clue what they are trying to convey in the song? Confused. And when you go to a live show.....Holy No Comprendo Batman!!....that's even worse. The music is ok, but I like Lozlan prefer to understand what is going on in the music. Especially with progrock, one attribute of prog is the lyrics......
       
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