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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2011 at 22:45
Those 4 lads from Liverpool, England. To be quite honest I'm not a super big Floyd fan although I still really like them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2011 at 22:52
Originally posted by EchidnasArf EchidnasArf wrote:



Studio productions: flat out tie. We're talking two bands with arguably the best produced studio albums ever! Pink Floyd's Gilmour era gave us albums with extreme depth, clarity, and separation. The Beatles' studio work was extremely innovative, imaginative, and influential on the likes of.... everybody.


Yeah, Beatles with a little bit of help from George Martin showed what could be done in the studio while Floyd pushed the limits of the very quality of production.  The opening bars of Breathe are still unsurpassed for sheer sound quality. You might have better separated or clearer mix on modern albums but the sheer mesmeric sonic effect of that moment is elusive.  I'd actually give it to Floyd for production.  For production and feel, Floyd have never been beaten. They came up with so very many great ideas too, especially up to around DSOTM but Beatles can't be beat in the ideas dept and their outlook of music was more global and all embracing than just about any other rock band.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 00:53
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by EchidnasArf EchidnasArf wrote:



Studio productions: flat out tie. We're talking two bands with arguably the best produced studio albums ever! Pink Floyd's Gilmour era gave us albums with extreme depth, clarity, and separation. The Beatles' studio work was extremely innovative, imaginative, and influential on the likes of.... everybody.


Yeah, Beatles with a little bit of help from George Martin showed what could be done in the studio while Floyd pushed the limits of the very quality of production.  The opening bars of Breathe are still unsurpassed for sheer sound quality. You might have better separated or clearer mix on modern albums but the sheer mesmeric sonic effect of that moment is elusive.  I'd actually give it to Floyd for production.  For production and feel, Floyd have never been beaten. They came up with so very many great ideas too, especially up to around DSOTM but Beatles can't be beat in the ideas dept and their outlook of music was more global and all embracing than just about any other rock band.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 15:40
Maybe the Beatles is my favourite band Tongue, although I don't consider them prog.
So I'll give them my vote. The Beatles are probably the only band I would put above my beloved King Crimson...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 15:41
It's hard to beat The Beatles when it comes to innovation and, IMPACT. Lennon/McCartney were also way better song writers. The amount of great melodies they came up with is hard to surpass.
Still, they never did anything like Shine On, Echoes and Dogs. Probably because they didn't stay together and evolved further into the seventies, they left the scene, for others to carry the torch.
It's impossible to vote, both bands mean a lot to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 17:33
Floyd is my fav band, so easy choice for me, but I love The Beatles too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2011 at 08:53
Not really a fair comparison; The Beatles are the basis for all groups; Floyd was a great and original band who adapted and became mainstream.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 13:35

I prefer The Beatles.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 14:05
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 14:11
Floyd, but only barely.

Really, if the White Album had been stripped down to a single album, I might choose otherwise.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 21:14
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 22:21
The Beatles, perhaps my favourite band of all time
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2012 at 02:35
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

The Beatles, perhaps my favourite band of all time
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2012 at 09:02
Pink Floyd, but I had to think about it.

Beatles are very important, but Floyd realizes their trend-setting better than they ever did.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2012 at 12:53
The Beatles.

Floyd is good, but I still found several of their albums a bit boring. 

So, the Fav Four... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2012 at 13:34
Pink Floyd, beyond a shadow of a doubt for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2012 at 13:48
[scratching my head] This is gonna be fun. The Beatles revolutionized pop-rock, but the Floyd significantly extended the meaning of prog-rock, focusing on mood, songwriting, texture, and melody more than anything else. PF kind of bridged that gap between prog and pop, ... but so did The Beatles. The Beatles were my first love, but PF took over with ambient, psych, and prog. But then PF took heavily from The Beatles. On the other hand, they heavily focused on mood and tone ... . PF are my current favorite, but The Fab Four were historically more significant. ... . [sigh]. Screw it. Both are great, both are significant.

Wait, what was the question? Who is your current favorite or who is historically more significant?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2012 at 14:05
Originally posted by overmatik overmatik wrote:

Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

I can't believe this poll, someone must have spammed the voting heavily. How can you even compare the two? The Beatles are so much above Floyd that it's like putting a heavy-weighter in the same ring with a flyweighter.


Well, tell us why you think that. But please, refer to Beatles' music, and don't come with the whole influential thing. The Beatles are the most influential rock band ever, this is common sense. We are talking about music here.

(Firstly, this is of course a matter of opinion, like everything on any internet forum...)

Up to (and including) DSOTM, Pink Floyd were a great, progressive band. Especially their efforts with art music was interesting. For whatever reason they gave up this, and after they finally had their big break they just became dull. I admit there are some musical ideas on their later albums, but they are too few and far between. In a way they gave up the progression in music. I can't think of other famous prog-related rock band whose music I find equally dull.

The Beatles had more interesting harmonies, more interesting melodies, more edge (both musically and lyrically), more interesting orchestration etc. In fact the only thing where Floyd can match them is the sheer beauty of sound. That's not enough for me, hence my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2012 at 19:09
I love the Beatles and all, but IMO Floyd was THE archetypical English psychedelic band. I think that the Beatles were more gifted songwriters, but Floyd pushed the boundaries of rock much further. So I'll say Floyd.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2012 at 19:36
^ Pushed boundaries? Liverpool used French chanson in their music, mixed sitar with R&B with experimentalism ... they practically invented pop-prog, pulled off backwards guitar, developed a technique of changing timbre by changing speed on tape (although that was G. Martin's fault), ... lots of technical and songwriting stuff. 

What did Cambridge do? They kind of continued that vein.


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