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    Posted: December 10 2010 at 04:32
I wanted to open this thread for fun and to enrichen my prog knowledge, and maybe yours too! Let me start: When Anthony Philips left Genesis Peter Gabriel offered Peter Banks to join as their guitarist but since Yes were making five pounds more Banks refused Cry
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Keith Emerson used to jam with Hendrix and was supposed to play on Axis Bold as Love, but the producers moved up the release date on the album and Keith couldn't participate because he was on tour.

As far as persistent myths about the supposed HELP band; Mitch Mitchell was Emerson and Lakes first choice for drummer, that didn't work out and supposedly Mitch said Hendrix might be interested in the new band, which the media got a hold of and blew up really big. The musicians all knew each other well, but Keith never really pursued the idea of putting Hendrix in the band.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The P Word Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2010 at 04:55
Jon Anderson offered Phil Collins the Yes gig backin the early days.
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Phil Collins once played drums for Jethro Tull. Yes this is true.
 
Also on the Tull facts, Ian Anderson played a flute for the first time only six months before recording This Was. He had previously been a lead guitarist but dissatisfied with his progress on the instrument, and seeking to create a difference from the many anonymous blues rock bands on the pub circuit, picked up a flute.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tamijo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2010 at 05:58
The Micheal Walden, drumming on those amasing Mahavishnu albums (after Cobham left), is the same as the one producing Whitney Houstons breaktrough "ultrapop" hit : I Wanna Dance with somebody.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2010 at 06:19
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Phil Collins once played drums for Jethro Tull. Yes this is true.
 
Phil Collins played the congas on George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass".
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Is there any band/artist that Phil Collins hasn't played for? LOL
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Jon Anderson was one of the Wombles and played on "We wish you a Wombling Merry Christmas".
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Not too obscure, but Randy Jackson of "American Idol" fame did bass & backing vocals on Journey's 1986 "Raised on Radio".
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Jon Anderson was one of the Wombles and played on "We wish you a Wombling Merry Christmas".

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ELP nearly split up due to Tarkus as Lake hated the idea and told Emerson that if that's what he wanted to do then he should get a new band.
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Originally posted by EnderEd EnderEd wrote:

Not too obscure, but Randy Jackson of "American Idol" fame did bass & backing vocals on Journey's 1986 "Raised on Radio".

Journey is not the peak of his Prog career, Randy "The Emperor" Jackson (changed nickname for American Idol) played bass from 1980 to 1983 with Jean Luc Ponty.in this albums:
  1. Civilized Evil
  2. Mystical Adventures
  3. Individual Choice

The list of great artists he performed with is impressive including Roger Waters, Blue Oyster Cult, Billy Cobham, Carlos Santana, Jerry García and Aretha Franklin, until he started to support N'Sync, Britney and then as the gem in the cheesy crown, came American Idol.

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Tommy Iomi played with Jethro Tull for one gig, after Mick Abrahams left, but left right after, and Ian Anderson decided to hire Marin Barre, even though he could barely hear his guitar playing during the audition. 
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After playing in The Hassles, Billy Joel decided to form a Prog band called attila and even released ths album:



Despite the distasteful cover (he's on the right) and the fact that Billy hates the album, Attila wasn't a bad.combination of Prog,. Hard Rock and Psych.

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prog metal band connections:

1. Porcupine Tree and Opeth
Steven Wilson produced several Opeth albums including Blackwater Park. He also sang and played the piano on some Opeth tracks.

2. Porcupine Tree and Dream Theater
Steven Wilson, Kevin Moore and Mike Portnoy all appear on the album OSI (Office of Strategic Influence).

3. Dream Theater and Pain of Salvation
Daniel Gidenlow and Mike Portnoy both appear on Transatlantic's Live in Europe.

4. Opeth and Edge of Sanity
Mikael Akerfeldt sang some clean vocals on Edge of Sanity's album Crimson.

5. King Crimson and Porcupine Tree
Robert Fripp played on the title track of Fear of a Blank Planet.

6. Ayreon and other prog metal bands
Ayreon's space opera lineup had included members from Dream Theater, Iron Maiden, The Gathering, Opeth,  Shadow Gallery and Mastodon, as well as members of prog rock bands including Uriah Heep, IQ and Mostly Autumn.

7. Ulver and Arcturus
Several Ulver members played in Arcturus too.



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Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

prog metal band connections:

1. Porcupine Tree and Opeth
Steven Wilson produced several Opeth albums including Blackwater Park. He also sang and played the piano on some Opeth tracks.


That's hardly an obscure fact.
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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Tommy Iomi played with Jethro Tull for one gig, after Mick Abrahams left, but left right after, and Ian Anderson decided to hire Marin Barre, even though he could barely hear his guitar playing during the audition. 

Yup. But it more like one song - A Song to Jeffrey at The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus and he didn't even play live; but luckily for us this performance, as well as the one with Phil on drums were caught on tape.
Still in the Tull area and in that era, Ian wanted Steve Howe in the band, but the latter turned down the offer. I can't help but wonder what it could have been like - an album, or even a jamming session with Steve in Tull.

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The entire career of Tim Staffel is (tragically) obscure.  He was the lead vocalist and bass player for Smile, the forerunner band for Queen.  After the band dissolved and Freddie Mercury assumed vocal duties, he co-founded the symphonic progressive rock group Morgan with noted keyboard luminary Morgan Fisher.  The band released two albums that should have conquered the world (Nova Solis and The Sleeper Wakes) prior to breaking up; Mr. Staffel went on to become a noted model maker, working on Thomas the Tank Engine and the BBC serial production of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.  Of late he's been exploring the funky side of things with his new band aMIGO.  The man is an absolute treasure, with an amazing voice and very admirable lyrical chops.  Shame that he's so completely unknown.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2010 at 11:03
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

prog metal band connections:

1. Porcupine Tree and Opeth
Steven Wilson produced several Opeth albums including Blackwater Park. He also sang and played the piano on some Opeth tracks.


That's hardly an obscure fact.

Not any of his facts are.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lizzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2010 at 11:09
Originally posted by Lozlan Lozlan wrote:

The entire career of Tim Staffel is (tragically) obscure.  He was the lead vocalist and bass player for Smile, the forerunner band for Queen.  After the band dissolved and Freddie Mercury assumed vocal duties, he co-founded the symphonic progressive rock group Morgan with noted keyboard luminary Morgan Fisher.  The band released two albums that should have conquered the world (Nova Solis and The Sleeper Wakes) prior to breaking up; Mr. Staffel went on to become a noted model maker, working on Thomas the Tank Engine and the BBC serial production of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.  Of late he's been exploring the funky side of things with his new band aMIGO.  The man is an absolute treasure, with an amazing voice and very admirable lyrical chops.  Shame that he's so completely unknown.

Oh yes! Good call! Clap And let's not forget that Fisher is also Queen-related. He played keys for them on the Hot Space tour (possibly my favourite Queen tour).
I've only listened to Nova Solis by Morgan, but I was extremely impressed. Will have to look for The Sleeper Wakes as well.
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