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    Posted: May 19 2012 at 22:44
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq


Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine


Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

 ^ I don't trust Wikipedia.

The so-called unreliability of Wikipedia is massively exaggerated. And considering this has citations everywhere, it's 100% definitely legit.

If I catch a piece of evidence useful for my counter-argument, I'll let you know Big smile .
BTW, just caught a rendition of Floyd's 'The Thin Ice' performed by Ian Anderson, Gary Green, and Tony Levin on MySpace ... come to think of that.


I've got the album that song is from... it's a cover album of the whole "Wall", performed by various artists, and produced by Billy Sherwood or something like that (he appears in many of the songs). Ian Anderson also appears in "Is there Anybody Out There" (I think also with Gary Green). John Wetton performs the song Mother with Adrian Belew on guitars. And so on. Billy Sherwood was also involved in another cover album for Dark Side of the Moon, also with various artists involved, and another Pink Floyd covers album with songs from various albums. As well as a Led Zeppelin tribute album, and a Beatles tribute album, etc.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SaltyJon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2012 at 23:32
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Not sure how obscure this really is, but Adrian Belew worked with Bowie, Zappa, Talking Heads, and King Crimson.

Yeah, the dude's got an awesome resume. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ProgSeeker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2012 at 19:46
Not very obscure, but I've always been intrigued by all the Hendrix/ELP stories.  Apparently, the HELP rumors were cooked up by the British Press.  On the latest Genesis Boxed sets, Peter Gabriel claims that Jimi Hendrix wanted to join The Nice.  The only thing that is certain is that Lake and Mitch Mitchell had discussed jamming with Emerson and Hendrix, but it never happened.  Who knows beyond that (or what would have been)?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote aginor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 10:37
Queen was in the recording studio or hanged around when Supertramp recorded Crime of the Century

at the Trident Studio, they probably recorded Queen 2 or Sheer Heart Attack??
you know Procol Harum created their own nieche in prog in the 70s like theyr own symph prog sound which they molded to their own IMO, quote Aginor
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The band Medicine Head released an album called Dark Side Of The Moon just a few months before Pink Floyd did.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2012 at 16:37
Originally posted by presdoug

The band Medicine Head released an album called Dark Side Of The Moon just a few months before Pink Floyd did.
...which annoyed PF immensely because had Medicine Head been a success they would have had to use the the working title of the album instead, which was Eclipse.
 
One of the tracks on the MH DSotM was titled "Back To The Wall"


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Post Options Post Options   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2012 at 17:20
Both of Triumvirat's and ELP's 1978 "pop rock" albums "A La Carte" and "Love Beach", respectively, both had songs on them called "For You" (not the exact same song, though)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ProgSeeker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2012 at 19:02
Not to mention "Lucky Girl" from Triumvirat's Illusions of a Double Dimple.  No accident there!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2012 at 19:43
Originally posted by ProgSeeker

Not to mention "Lucky Girl" from Triumvirat's Illusions of a Double Dimple.  No accident there!
^A great song, and a great album!
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There is a very obscure swiss band called L'ensemble Raye which on one of their songs, behind the music, buried in the mix, there is a woman talking on the phone in hebrew! which is totally weird.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2012 at 00:32
Originally posted by ProgSeeker

Not to mention "Lucky Girl" from Triumvirat's Illusions of a Double Dimple.  No accident there!
 
LOL, forgot about that one!
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Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by presdoug

The band Medicine Head released an album called Dark Side Of The Moon just a few months before Pink Floyd did.
...which annoyed PF immensely because had Medicine Head been a success they would have had to use the the working title of the album instead, which was Eclipse.
 
One of the tracks on the MH DSotM was titled "Back To The Wall"


A little non-prog fact.  John Fiddler of Medicine Head went on to front The British Lions (Mott the Hoople minus Ian Hunter and Mick Ralphs).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2012 at 10:50
Two Mikes, Mike Oldfield and Mike Ratledge, as well as a bunch of other musicians were performing "Tubular Bells" together live in 1973 (I believe it was on BBC).
"Composing itself, in a way, is a simplifying process, just trying to pick some (strands?) out [of] the clamour in the head." - Robert Wyatt.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jim Garten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2012 at 11:13
Originally posted by tamijo

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Originally posted by zravkapt

Speaking of Collins and Sabbath...
 
Whatta ... ? Collins? With Sabbath? Why LOLBig smile ?

Bet he thought he needed to loose some weight


How about Phil Collins with Led Zeppelin (sorta...)?



[edit]

Seems weird to me this may seem obscure to some, but I just remember it as something which happened a while ago, forgetting completely this was 27 years ago & there are many here who either weren't around, or were considerably younger than I was at the time...

Edited by Jim Garten - June 28 2012 at 11:20


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^ 0:53-1:00 - look at Page's face, all malformed. He could take part in a theatrical production of "Frankenstein".
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Two Mikes, Mike Oldfield and Mike Ratledge, as well as a bunch of other musicians were performing "Tubular Bells" together live in 1973 (I believe it was on BBC).
It's not that obscure, it's know as the BBC 2nd House version and featured many artists signed to Virgin at the time: Fred Frith (and other members of Henry Cow), Steve Hillage, Pierre Moerlen, Tom Newman, Mike Ratledge, Mick Taylor, Karl Jenkins and others.
 
It's available on Elements DVD compilation and the 2009 Deluxe Edition Tubby Bells reissue/repackage.
 
and looks like this:


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Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Two Mikes, Mike Oldfield and Mike Ratledge, as well as a bunch of other musicians were performing "Tubular Bells" together live in 1973 (I believe it was on BBC).
It's not that obscure, it's know as the BBC 2nd House version and featured many artists signed to Virgin at the time: Fred Frith (and other members of Henry Cow), Steve Hillage, Pierre Moerlen, Tom Newman, Mike Ratledge, Mick Taylor, Karl Jenkins and others.
 
It's available on Elements DVD compilation and the 2009 Deluxe Edition Tubby Bells reissue/repackage.
 
and looks like this:
 
 
And man, how good does this look! if anyone comes around asking what a masterpiece is, no need to go any further!
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BTW Dayvenkirk and Dean's posts reminded me of this old question for which I never had an answer:
In Oldfield's TB cover we have this iconic bell with a closed X shape, but actual tubular bells are as far as I know straight vertical tubes, or at least that's what I've seen so far.
 
Anybody knows why did Mike depict the closed-X-shaped tubular bell in the cover? I will not be the first one that for years thought that the bells played in the album had the shape shown in the cover and although I have no idea if they really did, I guess that they were probably straight tubular bells.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2012 at 15:48
^ Yes, the instrument is actually a bunch of straight bells. As for the iconic logo ... this is what Wiki says:

"The cover design was by Trevor Key of Cooke Key Associates (with Brian Cooke), who would go on to create the covers of many Oldfield albums. The concept for the triangular bell on the album cover art originally came from the idea of a bell which had been destroyed. Oldfield had come up with this when he had dented the set of Tubular bells used to record the album when playing them.[6]"

 ... but as some of you might know this already, I'm not a huge Wiki fan.

Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Two Mikes, Mike Oldfield and Mike Ratledge, as well as a bunch of other musicians were performing "Tubular Bells" together live in 1973 (I believe it was on BBC).
It's not that obscure, it's [known] as the BBC 2nd House version ...

Well, maybe in Britain it's not that obscure, but in the U.S. it probably is. Oh, the problems of geography.


Edited by Dayvenkirq - June 28 2012 at 15:50
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2012 at 19:32
Originally posted by Gerinski

Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Two Mikes, Mike Oldfield and Mike Ratledge, as well as a bunch of other musicians were performing "Tubular Bells" together live in 1973 (I believe it was on BBC).

It's not that obscure, it's know as the BBC 2nd House version and featured many artists signed to Virgin at the time: Fred Frith (and other members of Henry Cow), Steve Hillage, Pierre Moerlen, Tom Newman, Mike Ratledge, Mick Taylor, Karl Jenkins and others.
 

It's available on Elements DVD compilation and the 2009 Deluxe Edition Tubby Bells reissue/repackage.

 

and looks like this:

 
 

And man, how good does this look! if anyone comes around asking what a masterpiece is, no need to go any further!


Wonderful piece of music, indeed. And for me, the most drammatic part of the album is when the tubular bells come in... or at least on the version I have (the 2000 re-recording), on this version it doesn't come quiet as powerful.
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