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MANTICORE
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Topic: The gathering Prog or not..? Posted: June 11 2005 at 23:24 |
well I think that this group does not have anything to do in Progarchives.com. like nigthwish
they make boring and dirty Doom Metal. I have listened to several songs of them and doubt of my position does not fit to me.
LONG LIFE TO THE REALLYPROGRESSIVE ROCK ..!!
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bamba
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Posted: June 11 2005 at 23:35 |
i really suport you man.
that things just doesnt belong to the pgoressive scene.
i dont see why they have that kind of suport. the death metal subgerne just make my head hurts. i cant stand to much listen to that double pedal drumm, goes no where.
sorry about my english.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 11 2005 at 23:45 |
The Gathering, doom?
Methinks you need to hear Paramaecium so you know what doom *is*.
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MANTICORE
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Posted: June 11 2005 at 23:52 |
no thanks...
so boring....
are better things, does not like to waste time
THIS IS PROG
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 11 2005 at 23:54 |
Well, if you think The Gathering are doom, then you don't know the genre. Real doom is worthwhile.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 12:01 |
bamba wrote:
i really suport you man.
that things just doesnt belong to the pgoressive scene.
i dont see why they have that kind of suport. the death metal subgerne just make my head hurts. i cant stand to much listen to that double pedal drumm, goes no where.
sorry about my english.
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You might be confusing them with the Death Metal band "The Gathering". The "The Gathering" listed in the archives don't use double drums, at least I cannot recall any song that does.
Anyway, they're a great band and are really progressive. They started as a Gothic Metal band and have progressed quite significantly. Listen to "How to Measure a Planet", it's awesome. You should try some samples first to decide if you like the vocals though.
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MorgothSunshine
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 12:06 |
Not doom but gothic!
...anyway not progressive, but they are a great band!!!
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lucas
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 12:06 |
I agree with Manticore about NIGHTWISH : this isn't prog at all, simply power symphonic metal, or something like that.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 12:17 |
MorgothSunshine wrote:
Not doom but gothic!
...anyway not progressive, but they are a great band!!!
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I would consider How to measure ..., If_Then_Else and Souvenirs to be pretty unusual Gothic albums ... they really progressed a lot since Nighttime Birds.
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Vonarga
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 13:00 |
Up till 95', The Gathering were a Doom Metal band. They were fairly innovative in the genre in their extensive use of synths, but yes, they weren't prog.
BUT, starting from the album Mandylion which came out that year, and up until now, the Gathering have moved further into Gothic/Progressive/Experimental Rock. This can be clearly seen in their albums "How to Measure a Planet" and "If_Then_Else".
It's quite incredible, actually, but this band pretty much reinvents itself in every new album. So please don't be quick to judge them because of who they WERE.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 13:06 |
Vonarga wrote:
Up till 95', The Gathering were a Doom Metal band. They were fairly innovative in the genre in their extensive use of synths, but yes, they weren't prog.
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As in my previous post, I'd really call it "another band". With Mandylion, they turned 180 degrees. Some members remained, they kept the name, but it's really another band.
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hdfisch
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 17:50 |
It's exactly like Vonarga said, they used to do doom or gothic metal, but later on in a quite experimental and innovative way. I like very much Mandylion, Nighttime Birds and If then else. Later on they started to introduce some ambient electronic elements, which was not so much my cup of tea anymore. Anyway since Max obviously likes them, it's up to him whether they are here or not, it's his site!
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Politician
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 15:14 |
Progressive with a small P, definitely: they started out as doomdeath metal, then added Floydian and space rock touches, then incorporated industrial edges and finally moved towards a trip hop-influenced sound. Progressive with a capital P, not really, although they are certainly proggy. All their albums are interesting, extremely accomplished and well worth hearing.
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Odd24
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 15:56 |
The Gathering is more progressive than Within Temptation (the last band isn't mentioned at progarchives and what I have heard of it I think that's correct).
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Right down the line
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Jeremy Bender
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 16:02 |
Not Prog?
Listen to 'Probably built in the Fifties' from the cd 'How To Measure a Planet'.
Not Symphonic?
Listen to the cd 'Mandylion'.
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