Forum Home Forum Home > Other music related lounges > Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Roxy Music And Other Schizophrenic Groups
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedRoxy Music And Other Schizophrenic Groups

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Textbook View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: October 08 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 3281
Direct Link To This Post Topic: Roxy Music And Other Schizophrenic Groups
    Posted: December 28 2010 at 20:29
I've just started listening to Roxy Music and while I'm really enjoying myself (not sold on Ferry's singing but his songwriting is very good as are the band performances) I really find some of the stylistic leaps they make from song to song extremely jarring, even as a progressive listener. For example on For Your Pleasure we have Editions Of You followed by In Every Dream Home A Heartache. Listen to them one after the other and see how you feel.
 
 
 
They're from different planets and you'd never believe someone had intentionally sequenced them together.
 
This isn't an isolated incident though, RM frequently follow tracks with other tracks that don't even faintly flow together well. Clearly they do it on purpose and seem to find it amusing, though I will admit that following the long, intense, morose Sea Breezes with the facetious Bitters End on the debut album is pretty funny.
 
What other bands do you find alarming or unpredictable in this way?
Back to Top
catfood03 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 24 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 785
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2010 at 22:04
I, for one, love this aspect of Roxy Music's, erm... music.  The band collected and re-presented music styles the way Warhol did with found images.  This makes for some intriguing juxtapositions, which were (unfortunately) smoothed out with each successive release.

Edited by catfood03 - December 28 2010 at 22:05
Back to Top
ExittheLemming View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
Status: Offline
Points: 11415
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2010 at 06:42
Yep, early Roxy Music were incredibly adventurous and the abrupt changes between successive album tracks can be something of a jolt (but in a good way IMO)

BTW I always thought that In Every Dream Home a Heartache pre-empted Joy Division/The Cure/Banshees etc?
Back to Top
harmonium.ro View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: August 18 2008
Location: Anna Calvi
Status: Offline
Points: 22989
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2010 at 06:44
We can now talk about them in the Prog Lounges as they were moved from Related to Crossover Wink
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 34050
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2010 at 06:51
Huuuuraaaay    Hug
 
that was one good news this late 2010, soon 10cc will follow their brother (removed by birth) Handshake
Back to Top
Textbook View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: October 08 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 3281
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2010 at 13:54

Roxy Music are great in how they can be hilarious one moment and frightening the next. I wish I'd discovered them sooner.

 
Are they worth seeing live these days? I've heard they're coming to my neighbourhood soon...
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 34050
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2010 at 15:00
 
What other bands do you find alarming or unpredictable in this way?
[/QUOTE]
 
I will always recomend 10cc and Supertramp which are always nearby while discussing Roxy, maybe also Sparks, also 80s band Tears for Fears have a artsy and unpredictable side
 
 
Woman in Chains with Phil Collins on drums
 
 
Back to Top
irrelevant View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 07 2010
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 13382
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 01:32
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Huuuuraaaay    Hug
 
that was one good news this late 2010, soon 10cc will follow their brother (removed by birth) Handshake

Yeah! 10cc for crossover! 
Back to Top
npjnpj View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: December 05 2007
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 2720
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 04:52
Just on the off-chance that anyone's interested, I'd like to recommend the first few albums by Split Enz. It's the forerunner of Crowded House (not a recommendation , I know) and had the Finn brothers as founding members.

Their songs have the same off-the-wall feel to them, at least I see a lot of similarities to RM, although others may not?

The first three albums are definite winners.
Back to Top
BaldJean View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: May 28 2005
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 10377
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 05:16
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I've just started listening to Roxy Music and while I'm really enjoying myself (not sold on Ferry's singing but his songwriting is very good as are the band performances) I really find some of the stylistic leaps they make from song to song extremely jarring, even as a progressive listener. For example on For Your Pleasure we have Editions Of You followed by In Every Dream Home A Heartache. Listen to them one after the other and see how you feel.
 
 
 
They're from different planets and you'd never believe someone had intentionally sequenced them together.
 
This isn't an isolated incident though, RM frequently follow tracks with other tracks that don't even faintly flow together well. Clearly they do it on purpose and seem to find it amusing, though I will admit that following the long, intense, morose Sea Breezes with the facetious Bitters End on the debut album is pretty funny.
 
What other bands do you find alarming or unpredictable in this way?

on a side note: listen to the similarity of the chord structure between "In Every Dream Home a Heartache" and this:

the songs are even in the same key. both albums are from 1975, so it is probably a coincidence


Edited by BaldJean - December 30 2010 at 05:26


A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
Back to Top
npjnpj View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: December 05 2007
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 2720
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 10:32
@ BaldJean:

That picture looks as if you're doing an advert for battered women.  LOL
Back to Top
Textbook View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: October 08 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 3281
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 13:30
NPJ: Being a New Zealander I'm very familiar with Split Enz and I do see similarities to Roxy Music, particularly the pioneering use of sarcasm and irony, and mixing joyous pop tunes with sinister experimental moments.
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 34050
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 18:26
this album is also schizoid or bipolar or something insane in the membrane
 
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29625
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 19:26
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

@ BaldJean:

That picture looks as if you're doing an advert for battered women.  LOL

With panko?
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

Back to Top
ExittheLemming View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
Status: Offline
Points: 11415
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2010 at 23:13
^ Women are best served in breadcrumbs
Back to Top
Harold-The-Barrel View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 05 2010
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 659
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 07:06
Frankly I can't see the problem, two great songs back to backShocked
You must be joking.....Take a running jump......
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.480 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.