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plpicher 
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It's complex, it has an amazing sound, it's extremely powerful, i loved it the first time i listened to it, the second time, it became one of my top 10 albums.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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You still don't get me. I say I don't like Gentle Giant but I never said all the people who believe Gentle Giant is great are wrong, I'm sure it's a great band, I just don't like them, but I believe they deserve all the credit they receive Overrated on the other hand is an arrogant term, meaning all the people who rate them so high are wrong because you say it deserves a lower rating than they get. If you say "I don't like Hybris", it's OK, nobody can force you to like them or feel offended for your taste. Do you get the difference? Iván
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 12 2011 at 17:21 |
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I do like Hybris but feel its overrated.
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Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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wilmon91
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Posted: January 12 2011 at 18:08 |
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Yes, I get the difference. Saying "I hate it" is a criticism towards the band. Saying "it's overrated" is a criticism to those people that have written about it and praising it. And since I don't find the album bad, it is just very unremarkable, and my major point was concerning it's high esteem among prog-fans.
If you watch "The Godfather" (the movie) for example, it is inevitable that you will compare your opinions with the expectations you had beforehand. Those expectations came from the general opinions about the movie. You expect a masterpiece.
Since the only reason I bought the album was because of the massive positive opinions about it, it's inevitable to compare my opinions with the general opinions.
So if you look at it from my perspective, my opinion is unavoidable. Even if some people including you, will be offended, the criticism is aimed at its reputation, and shouldn't be taken as a personal attack. If you still feel that way, I'm sorry, but what can I do..
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 12 2011 at 18:56 |
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Just this short precision. Saying I hate Gentle Giant, it's not a criticism to the band, it's an expression of my taste, they could be great (and a fact I believe all are excellent musicians, just that I don't like what they do together) and I still hate their music. I still believe that the term overrated is a criticism to other person's opinion, and no, I don't feel offended, I'm used to listen that Prog is self indulgent crap´for three decades, and never affected my sleep, I love Prog independently from other person's opinions, I just try to make PA more respectful every day. If you check my posts, I can be passionate in my debates, even stubborn, but I try to never use terms as trash, crap or overrated Iván
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m2thek
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Posted: January 12 2011 at 20:22 |
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I agree with Ivan. I think it's a really poor way to describe something, and gives the impression that one thinks their opinion holds more weight than others. I don't think people mean it in this way, but that's what it reads as.
I also agree that Hybris is great; let us know what you think =)
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 12 2011 at 20:25 |
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of course it's overrated, it's also a terrific album, as SnowDog points out both can be true
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richardh
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 01:50 |
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I tend to think everything is overrated on this site other than ELP and Par Lindh albums
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let prog reign
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 08:29 |
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Hybris is an interesting album with a very distinct sound. It is extremely progressive and I think that is the reason why it is rated so highly. The album is mostly dominated by keyboards and guitar. Its almost too typical of a prog rock album. So it's decent but definitely overrated and doesn't belong in the top 100.
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Harold-The-Barrel
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:41 |
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Well I've now listened to it three times and I must say it is a very "Proggy" Prog album, it wasn't as hard listening as I expected, I loved the use of mellotron, it sounds right out of the 70's, which is a good thing of course. if I had one reservation about Hybris is that I would have liked more vocals, but thats just me and its not really a fault. So thanks to everyone who replied with their thoughts on it.
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You must be joking.....Take a running jump......
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 09:55 |
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It's pretty boring.
I think 70s prog bands did a fairly good job exploring the sound. I don't need to hear anymore of it. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:00 |
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Overrated then?
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:15 |
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I didn't use that profanity.
It is though. |
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:27 |
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I've held it in my hand...
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wilmon91
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 12:24 |
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I think it's as Gerinski says. Its significance has to do with it being a 90's album , and the band was formed in the 90's by young members, representing a new generation of prog musicians who could carry on the spirit of seventies prog in the present time. |
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:37 |
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It became immediately one of my 10 best albums of all time. No doubt about it. This tells you how brilliant that piece of music is in my opinion. Will you like it as much as I do? Don't know, perhaps it would be different for you. Give it at least a full and careful listen and then judge. It is not one of the easiest albums out there to get in touch with. Be patient. That's my advice to you. |
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 19:18 |
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but it doesn't even sound similar to 70s prog. You people are nuts |
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TheJollyBard
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 19:20 |
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But it is the best sound! |
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 19:21 |
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A prime example of backwards-looking music; the antithesis of prog in an era marked by an absolute lack of innovation. |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: January 13 2011 at 19:28 |
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And Starcastle never heard of Yes.
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