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Grinischki
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Topic: Why is Les Claypool not on PA ? Posted: February 24 2011 at 23:59 |
Hi,
I was wondering why Les Claypool and some of his side projects are not on PA yet. It is strange, because Primus is there, and even Oysterhead and Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains are there too. On the other hand, there is a lot of exemple on PA of single artists coming from more important band that have been added. I take Carlos Santana, Mike Patton and John Petrucci among numerous others as good exemples. As such, I strongly suggest the addition of Les Claypool with his albums "Of Fungi and Foe" (2009) and "Of Whales and Woe" (2006). He also have 2 DVDs : "Fancy" (2007) and "Five Gallons of Diesel" (2005). For his side projects, in addition to Oysterhead ("The Grand Pecking Order", 2001) and Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains ("The Big Eyeball in the Sky", 2004) that are already on PA and could maybe be regrouped under the Les Claypool page, the Les Claypool's Frog Brigade should definitivly be added. The other sides projects Sausage and Les Claypool and the Holy Mackerel should be added too and maybe Electric Apricot too, but since I haven't heard this one yet, I would not pronounce myself on it. Here is the information for Les Claypool, Les Claypool's Frog Brigade, Les Claypool and the Holy Mackerel and Sausage with albums, dvds and bios (from the Les Claypool website). Les Claypool Albums LES CLAYPOOL - Of Fungi And Foe (2009) LES CLAYPOOL - Of Whales And Woe (2006) DVDs LES CLAYPOOL - Fancy (2006) LES CLAYPOOL - 5 Gallons Of Diesel (2005) (Including Sausage, Holy Mackerel, Oysterhead and Frog Brigade music) Bio (From Les Claypool's web site http://www.lesclaypool.com/discography/lesclaypool/) Bassist, songwriter, and virtuoso Les Claypool kicked off one of the most sustained periods of activity in his career on May 30th with the release of 'Of Whales And Woe' (Prawn Song). The album's 12 all-new songs match the irreverent aesthetic that has characterized Claypool's storied career with a gritty, uncompromising drive. This is hard rock, from the menacing and sparse lead-off "Back Off Turkey" to the dirge march of "Lust Strings" and the propulsive "Rumble Of The Diesel." Other highlights include "Phantom Patriot," with references from Bohemian Grove to "the elite right wing maze," and the album's closer, and instrumental titled simply "Off-white Guilt." The album's release is just one of this summer's highlights for Claypool: Praise is already growing for his first ever feature film. Entitled "Electric Apricot: Quest For Festeroo," the mockumentary-style spoof skewers the jamband scene (featuring cameos from many of the biggest artists in that genre) and stars Claypool - who also wrote and directed the picture - as Lap "Lapdog" Miklovich, drummer for the fictional jam band Electric Apricot. Following a breakout (and award-winning, with the nod for "Best Comedy") sneak preview at California's Tiburon film festival this spring, the film reached a wider audience with summer festival engagements including slots at the Malibu Film Festival and Portland (OR) Longbaugh Festival. The film is slated for limited theatrical release, and national DVD release later in the year. In July, "South of the Pump House," Les Claypool's first novel, will be published by Akashic Books. The story, which began life as Les' first screenplay several years ago, revolves around a fishing trip. Les Claypool's Frog Brigade Albums: THE LES CLAYPOOL FROG BRIGADE - Purple Onion (2002) COLONEL LES CLAYPOOL'S FEARLESS FLYING FROG BRIGADE - Live Frogs Set 1 (2001) COLONEL LES CLAYPOOL'S FEARLESS FLYING FROG BRIGADE - Live Frogs Set 2 Bio (From Les Claypool's web site http://www.lesclaypool.com/discography/frogbrigade/) Fresh from his recent success with Oysterhead (which also features Trey Anastasio of Phish and Stewart Copeland, formerly of the Police), Primus main man Les Claypool continues to broaden his horizons with another musical alliance, the Les Claypool Frog Brigade. "Purple Onion" released in September 2002 is the first ever Les Claypool Frog Brigade studio recording, Les' first all original solo project since Primus. While the Brigade regulars are consistent on much of the record (eenor, Skerik, and new percussionist Mike "Tree Frog" Dillon), many special guests grace the album as well. "D's Diner" features sitar player Gabby Lang in addition to the triple-bass onslaught of Claypool, Norwood Fisher (Fishbone) and Lonnie Marshall (Weapon of Choice). Warren Haynes (Allman Brothers, Gov't Mule, Phil Lesh) handles guitar on the psychedelic hillbilly stomp of "Buzzards of Green Hill" and Fish Fisher (Fishbone drummer) guests on "Whamola," a live show staple named after the unique instrument Les employs -- a one-string bass played with a drumstick. Original Frog drummer Jay Lane (Ratdog, Sausage) appears on four songs, while Bay Area monster Dean Johnson also makes an appearance. Bassist extraordinaire, vocalist and songwriter are just a few of the roles Claypool has taken on over the years with Primus. Producer, video director, cartoonist/animator, screenwriter, record label owner, and interactive design artist are all part of the panoply of talents and interests this unique multimedia adventurer has explored. Claypool has always kept his musical hands wet outside the Primus waters with side projects including Sausage (featuring Jay Lane of Rat Dog) and Les Claypool & the Holy Mackerel (which included the talents of Jay Lane, Charlie Hunter, and Henry Rollins). His playing can also be heard on albums by Tom Waits, Rob Wasserman, Alex Lifeson of Rush, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Jerry Cantrell (Alice In Chains), and the Gov't Mule release "The Deep End, Volume 2". Two live Les Claypool Frog Brigade CD's were released in 2001 on Les' own Prawn Song Records label, "Live Frogs Set 1" and "Live Frogs Set 2". While "Set 1" contains versions of originals and covers, "Set 2" is a complete performance of the Pink Floyd classic album, "Animals". Musicians included in this recorded line-up of the Les Claypool Frog Brigade included Todd Huth on guitar (Primus, Sausage), drummer Jay Lane (Sausage, Rat Dog), and keyboardist Jeff Chimenti (Rat Dog, Pharoah Sanders). "Set 1" received the Jammy Award (Jambands.com awards) for best live album of the year. Les Claypool and the Holy Mackerel Album: LES CLAYPOOL AND THE HOLY MACKEREL - Highball With The Devil (1996) Bio (From Les Claypool's web site http://www.lesclaypool.com/discography/holymackerel/) Setting up shop in the guest-house-cum-home-studio of Rancho Relaxo - his spacious, "Wayne Newton meets Mike Brady"-style spread in the idyllic rolling hills of Northern California - Les began by working up grooves and rolling tape. "A lot of these songs started with me and Jay Lane just jamming," he explains. "Jay's my favorite drummer on the planet, so whenever we get together we tend to have a pretty good time. We just laid down a bunch of grooves, and when one of 'em sounded cool, I'd hit RECORD and we'd lay it out for a few minutes. Then we'd shut it off and say, `That was cool. Let's do a different one.'" With rhythm tracks in place, Les summoned several stellar sidemen - all old friends, of course - and told 'em to go nuts. "I've known Les since he was a teenager, and he hasn't changed that much," quips guest guitarist Joe Gore (PJ Harvey, Tom Waits). "He has more than a little Saturday morning cartoon-show host in him. Plus, he has the most extraordinary free-thinking, do-it-yourself ethic in the studio I've ever encountered. He goes strictly by what sounds good to him--whether it's achieved with some very expensive, sophisticated piece of gear or some junk from Radio Shack. He encouraged all of us to just freak out." Guitarist/electric-saw virtuoso M.I.R.V. seconds that emotion. "I just played what I felt like playin'," he says. "It was one of the cooler recording situations I've been in. Les offered some direction because obviously they're his tunes, but there was none of the `big studio, time is money' pressure that makes it hard to concentrate. I'm another big proponent of the technology that makes it affordable to bring large-studio quality into the practice room. It lets you relax and get weird tracks done--which is what we did!" Other guests include jazz-funk 8-string guitar whiz Charlie Hunter and spoken-word maestro/publishing magnate/angry young man Henry Rollins. Sausage Album: SAUSAGE - Riddles Are Abound Tonight (1994) Bio (From Les Claypool's web site http://www.lesclaypool.com/discography/sausage/) Sausage: sliced and diced fatly chunks of weird particles with meaty grizzle that doesn't really taste like meat. Like fine wine, the three members of Sausage have improved with time in the five years since their last jam session. Talented bass player Les Claypool (of Primus fame) joins forces with old friends Todd Huth (guitar) and Jay Lane (drums) to perfect a state of unconsciousness normally unattainable during the waking hours. "Prelude To Fear" includes Claypool's familiar thwappin' bass with Lane slammin' the beat right along with him (almost impossible, but Jay is dazzling). Sit back and relax to the more than seven minutes of "Shattering Song," whose reckless riffs were recorded at a faint pianissimo level, and become stronger and louder, like a train gaining speed as it approaches. The fast pickin' "Toyz 1988" showcases Todd Huth's bluesy style; "Girls For Single Men" layers talking voices over one another in a dreamlike sequence so real that you might wake up with tiny beads of water on your brow. It's just Sausage's way of penetrating your imagination. Experience the above, along with the title track, "Here's To The Man" and "Caution Should Be Used." |
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: February 25 2011 at 00:04 |
I have no idea why he's not here, but Of Fungi and Foe is prog to the core
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: February 25 2011 at 03:41 |
Les has been discussed again and again, and thought as a problematic
case ... has not found his place yet (maybe Prog-Related is one of
solutions I think).
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17309 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24683 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35337 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37454 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73071 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 25 2011 at 03:45 |
I've suggested before that all of Claypool's projects other than Primus just be put under one category because often they only last for one or two albums. I think it would simplify things. I was surprised to see Oysterhead had it's own listing and even more surprised to see BoBB added as it's own individual listing. I don't know if there is some technical difficulty with doing this.
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 25 2011 at 03:46 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Grinischki
Forum Newbie Joined: April 16 2009 Location: Deux-Montagnes Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Posted: February 27 2011 at 15:32 |
"I don't know if there is some technical difficulty with doing this." It's also the same thing for the page of John McLaughlin (http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2627), the Five Peace Band album (with Chick Corea and Herby Hancock) can easily be listed in Corea's or in Hancock's page or even have its own page. On the other hand, John Pettruci and John Rudess have pages on their own, but the duet John Pettruci and John Rudess have a page on his own too (http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3406). So I think that there is a lot of latitude on Progarchive and that it should not be a real problem to create 1 page for Les Claypool and his side projects or 1 page for each (eventualy with see also links)
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Evolver
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Posted: February 27 2011 at 18:01 |
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: February 27 2011 at 19:01 |
One of those is about Les Claypool's Frog Brigade, which is a separate band from his solo works (obviously). The others are all before his most recent album, which IMO is pretty darn progressive. |
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Gorloche
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 02:23 |
His stuff has always struck me as prog, given his adoration for Rush, Pink Floyd, and King Crimson shows through fairly consistently. I think Eclectic would fit him best, to be completely honest, mainly because his stuff tends to stick to a weird funky version of the avant-garde with firm prog influences. However, prog-related would also be a good fit if he is deemed not progressive enough, but that would be weird to me considering that his less proggy projects are featured.
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