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    Posted: February 27 2011 at 15:47
When I listen to Prog, I'm stimulated by listening to the time signature, instrumental timbres, lyrics subject etc. Yet some of my 'peers', dare I use the word, simply cannot comprehend the song's beauty. They enjoy the bog-standard 4/4 run of the mill pop song. These people are noticeably 'thick as a brick' Wink so does intelligence play a part in liking Prog? I am of a certain intelligence, due to my abilities and performances in a variety of subjects, and I took Greek and Latin at GCSE. Unsurprisingly, my Classics (Greek & Latin) teacher rather likes Yes, Genesis and PF, and he is incredibly intelligent. I have noticed that I am the only Prog-wizard amongst my peers. So I can't honestly conclude my hypothesis from my own experiences. Can anyone else give me any back-up or tell me different?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:14

nope

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:18
Yes it does. I am clearly not smart enough to enjoy Dream Theater anymore. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:18
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

nope



I'm sorry, could you please digress. Is that a simple answer to my overall query, or the last part asking about your own experiences?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:22
I'm sorry, I know plenty of idiots who listen to prog. The idiocy is well spread between the different genres.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:24
Open mindedness does matter. Not just to prog but to any non-popular music genre. Intelligence... nah, don't think so. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:26
One most also take into account that IQ is merely the measure of ones upper limits of intelligence. There is, in fact, no lower limit. One can be a genius listening to Mahavishnu Orchestra but return to the kitchen and attempt to clean a running blender with his fingers. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:28
Progsters are possibly more intelligent, but there are plenty of bands who either are not intelligent in Prog (too many to give example), or who are misinterpreted completely by the masses (Pink Floyd), or who are somewhere in between the two (Rush, seriously people) or who have particularly strong (charting) connections with mainstream music (many, including Yes, Genesis, Supertramp, Rush again, Pink Floyd a little.. etc.)

Catch my drift? 

You don't have to even have good taste to enjoy Prog stamped stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:29
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

nope

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:30

Notable mention: The illiterate Captain Beefheart.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:32
Is a decent attention span a more necessary part for enjoying prog would you say?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 16:35

a minimal form of musical intelligence maybe, you might still suck at math or languages or social skills


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 17:05
Another confused ego who thinks prog-listening is a sign of intelligence. There's plenty of geniuses listening hip hop and quite a lot of idiots litening to prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 17:06
People can like prog without understanding why they like it and I know some prog heads who are dumb as hell so I would say no, intelligence has no bearing on whether somebody enjoys prog or not. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 17:30
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Another confused ego who thinks prog-listening is a sign of intelligence. There's plenty of geniuses listening hip hop and quite a lot of idiots litening to prog.


I'm not trying to improve my intelligence status by stating my musical taste, I'm just curious to see if there's a relationship between academic ability and music taste. I've seen ones go on about Metal and Classical, but none on Prog.
The more academically able of my friends seem to enjoy indie, Eminem, Girls Aloud, The Prodigy, Raconteurs, Guns 'N' Roses etc. But going on the musical intelligence affair, a boy who sits by me in registration, is fantastic at various instruments absolutely loves G'N'R, The Libertines and The Pretty Reckless. Which puzzles me. As he completely disregards Prog.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 17:48
Originally posted by Phulax-Wolfgang Phulax-Wolfgang wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Another confused ego who thinks prog-listening is a sign of intelligence. There's plenty of geniuses listening hip hop and quite a lot of idiots litening to prog.


I'm not trying to improve my intelligence status by stating my musical taste, I'm just curious to see if there's a relationship between academic ability and music taste. I've seen ones go on about Metal and Classical, but none on Prog.
The more academically able of my friends seem to enjoy indie, Eminem, Girls Aloud, The Prodigy, Raconteurs, Guns 'N' Roses etc. But going on the musical intelligence affair, a boy who sits by me in registration, is fantastic at various instruments absolutely loves G'N'R, The Libertines and The Pretty Reckless. Which puzzles me. As he completely disregards Prog.




He probably just doesn't like the aesthetics of the genre. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 17:54
Nope. I'm thick as pig sh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 17:58
Actually. In women it is true.  Only intelligent women love prog.
For men, it's an indication of how well endowed we are.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 17:58
Originally posted by Phulax-Wolfgang Phulax-Wolfgang wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Another confused ego who thinks prog-listening is a sign of intelligence. There's plenty of geniuses listening hip hop and quite a lot of idiots litening to prog.


I'm not trying to improve my intelligence status by stating my musical taste, I'm just curious to see if there's a relationship between academic ability and music taste. I've seen ones go on about Metal and Classical, but none on Prog.
The more academically able of my friends seem to enjoy indie, Eminem, Girls Aloud, The Prodigy, Raconteurs, Guns 'N' Roses etc. But going on the musical intelligence affair, a boy who sits by me in registration, is fantastic at various instruments absolutely loves G'N'R, The Libertines and The Pretty Reckless. Which puzzles me. As he completely disregards Prog.




I met a destructive artist back in the 70's who used to place severed pig heads outside art galleries. His IQ was at least double mine and I asked him why he listened to disco music. He told me he loved the blandness of it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 18:14
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

I met a destructive artist back in the 70's who used to place severed pig heads outside art galleries. His IQ was at least double mine and I asked him why he listened to disco music. He told me he loved the blandness of it.


He sounds like a marvellous character
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