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    Posted: April 04 2011 at 06:49

Cheap music. Cheap lyrics. What is this? POP album? Prog album?! Soft Rock or Love song? I can see the fall of one prog idol in this album. Composing is horrible. Arrangement is "out of date".  They(Blackfield) copy their previouses successful songs in worst shape and they corrupt them. What is this ludicrous lyrics? Specially in "Go to Hell" song.

I think Wilson need to think again. He must go to a silent place, far from music, and thinking about his latest work. I dont care about names, Blackfield or Porcupine tree or No Man or... Each musical product with his name is a Wilson work  and he must know that.
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Big Steven Wilson fan.  Unfortunately, this latest Blackfield album is among the worst that Steven Wilson has released.  I do not know what is going on with the "Go to Hell" song but it is pretty lousy IMO.

The Blackfield side project has slowly gone down hill to the point where this latest album is a load of crap.

Sorry Mr. Wilson - you have done much better in the past.
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Must play my copy to find out what this fuss is about!LOL

My friend said he liked it though.
Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote harmonium.ro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 07:11
I've read that most of the album was written by the other guy.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 07:30
Originally posted by harmonium.ro

I've read that most of the album was written by the other guy.

The "Go To Hell" song definitely is Geffen's.


EDIT. Yep he wrote the entire thing except for "Waving" And he wrote the majority of the first two as well.


Edited by Snow Dog - April 04 2011 at 07:36
Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote O666 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 07:38

OK. Geffen written most of that but as I said before we know SW is a Blackfield member and I listened to Blackfield for a first time ( 3-4 years past) because of SW name and credit. Blackfield's first album is a pretty good album and their second album is good too. But this one.........

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Sounds Ok to me. Listening now. I admit some of it sounds more like Aviv Geffen solo material. 
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I'd say that 90% of the album was done by Geffen.... but what's so bad about it? I personally think it's a wonderful album; the lyrics are strong, meaningful, and the string arrangements are beautiful. What were you all expecting? Blackfield are a pretty standard art-pop band, with a lot of Israeli influences. I take it for what it is, and it is a great album.


Can you honestly say this is a bad/mediocre song:

    
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Post Options Post Options   Quote O666 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 14:29

This is subjective. I compare with first and second albums. I love SW and I know his potential. I expect better album (in this genre) from Wilson. Art-Pop? I dont think so. I think Blackfield music is in Pop-Rock category(IMO). I never expect one Heavy Prog or other sub-gen Prog album from Blackfield but "Welcome..." is so weaker than their previous albums.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Henry Plainview Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 18:21
 
Originally posted by The Monodrone

Can you honestly say this is a bad/mediocre song:

"One direction with no turning back.
Soon it will turn to black.
Soon it will turn to black."
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Any Colour You Like Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 18:23
Newsflash, Blackfield was never considered prog by any sane individual.

Deal with it.
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Originally posted by Any Colour You Like

Newsflash, Blackfield was never considered prog by any sane individual.

Deal with it.

In fact, they shouldn't even be in this subforum because they're prog related! 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 18:32
Originally posted by Henry Plainview

 
Originally posted by The Monodrone

Can you honestly say this is a bad/mediocre song:
"One direction with no turning back.Soon it will turn to black.Soon it will turn to black."
"Today is just the future of the past"

Yes this honestly is a mediocre song.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Any Colour You Like Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 18:35
The album isn't bad musically, nothing spectacular... but the lyrics are mostly horrid.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote angelmk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 18:47
i liked the new album.. pop oriented yeah, catchy songs, i didn't pay much attention on the lyrics 
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Originally posted by O666

I listened to Blackfield for a first time ( 3-4 years past) because of SW name and credit.


Well maybe you should learn not to do that.  I can't see why that particular name would incite anybody to jump all over any musical project anyway...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Neck Romancer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 18:54
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

Originally posted by O666

I listened to Blackfield for a first time ( 3-4 years past) because of SW name and credit.


Well maybe you should learn not to do that.  I can't see why that particular name would incite anybody to jump all over any musical project anyway...

Says the man who listens to Les Claypool.
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Never listened to Blackfield before. That video was PT lite with extra Floyd added in. Nothing offensive, but nothing that would make me drop cash on the album.
Current Listening:

Heater valve kicking on.
Snotty noses being blown.
Griping.
Maybe cookies coming out of the oven???

C is for cookie, and it is good enough for me.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Triceratopsoil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 19:19
Originally posted by Polo

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

Originally posted by O666

I listened to Blackfield for a first time ( 3-4 years past) because of SW name and credit.


Well maybe you should learn not to do that.  I can't see why that particular name would incite anybody to jump all over any musical project anyway...

Says the man who listens to Les Claypool.


I'm already beginning to feel similarly about your tastes to how I feel about Caio's

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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Neck Romancer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2011 at 19:21
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

Originally posted by Polo

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

Originally posted by O666

I listened to Blackfield for a first time ( 3-4 years past) because of SW name and credit.


Well maybe you should learn not to do that.  I can't see why that particular name would incite anybody to jump all over any musical project anyway...

Says the man who listens to Les Claypool.

I'm already beginning to feel similarly about your tastes to how I feel about Caio's

That's not fair; I don't listen to cheesy prog metal.
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