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beterdedthnred4 
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 22:55 |
All of you who hate Tales from Topographic Oceans, I empathize with
you, but I fail to understand you. I for one love each of the
four sides/songs, and I even love the much maligned "middle sides", The
Remembering and The Ancient.
The Remembering
- Check out that oceanic section at about 4:30 and its reprise at
16:30. Other symphonic bands have lost hours meandering with
guitar and mellotron trying to recapture that magic.
- The "chorus" at 6:50 is interesting both melodically and
lyrically. "Stand on hills of long forgotten yesterdays" Is
that profound or nonsensical? That is for Jon to know and us to
wonder.
- And I just love the double climax, the reprise of the chorus with
Steve Howe's guitar freaking out at 14:35 and the joyous conclusion
starting at 17:35.
The Ancient
- Whereas some guitar players have a 25 second solo, and hopelessly
butcher it into an unmelodic piece of trash, this is Steve Howe in his
prime, showing Crosby Stills and Nash how to really use a slide
guitar. The first 4 minutes or so is all soloing, and I'll be
damned if I don't love it. And after a short interlude, he
returns on regular guitar to duel with Wakeman.
- The "Leaves of Green" section of this song is one of the most
beautiful acoustic sections any prog band, hell, any band ever wrote.
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Tommy
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 22:58 |
The Remembering is my favourite track on this album. I hope one day they revive it live!
The drum solo on The Ancient spoils this track for me but Chris Squires bass more than makes up for it!
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Salmacis72
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 09:38 |
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I love The Remembering and The Ancient too!! Absolute bliss when the mood strikes me.
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Zargus
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:05 |
Since i bought TFTO i have thought it to be one of Yes albsolutly best and bigest works and i to like all the tracks and whuldent whanta be without any of em.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:24 |
 beterdedthnred4 wrote:
- Whereas some guitar players have a 25 second solo, and hopelessly
butcher it into an unmelodic piece of trash, this is Steve Howe in his
prime, showing Crosby Stills and Nash how to really use a slide
guitar.
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Now why would these electric folkies want to know how to use the slide guitar - Steve Stills was never a bad player - check out Crossroads/Can't Catch Me (Robert Johnson meets Chuck Berry) on his solo Live album of 1978 or his playing on the magnificent Suite Judy Blue Eyes
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Moogtron III
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 15:58 |
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I love all 4 sides from Tales! That includes The Remembering and The Ancient. Great stuff!
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 20:39 |
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I prefer The Anicent over The Remembering. But both are good songs, nonetheless.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Arsillus
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 23:11 |
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Nothing can touch Tales from Topographic Oceans. I haven't heard any band come close its greatness.
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Posted: June 20 2005 at 23:28 |
beautifull, but not quite there, like a missing piece you only realise is lost after you've finished most of the puzzle, still a great piece though 
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chopper
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Posted: July 14 2005 at 11:35 |
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I also love "The Remembering", particularly the middle "don the cap"/"Relayer" bit and the closing section which is one of Yes' finest moments IMO.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: July 14 2005 at 15:18 |
If they'd cut out the first 10 minutes of "The ancient" I'd agree with you 100% Beter.
Chopper - nice avatar by the way, comes across really well.
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Evan1211
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Posted: July 17 2005 at 10:17 |
Nice. I just checked out the spots you said and they are awesome indeed. I don't see how someone could not love Tales. I loved it on my first listening. Then again, I had been on a Yes kick for sometime before I bought it. Check out 10:40 on The Remembering. That is a good part as well. And around 12:50 on the Ancient is the start to the awesome acoustic part  I like how the song builds up to this.
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Syntharachnid
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Posted: July 17 2005 at 15:02 |
Tommy wrote:
The Remembering is my favourite track on this album. I hope one day they revive it live!
The drum solo on The Ancient spoils this track for me but Chris Squires bass more than makes up for it!
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I'm pretty sure your're thinking about Ritual, not the Ancient. The Ancient is the one with extensive guitar work. Ritual has a bass solo and a drum solo.
Yeah, and I love both of these tracks too!
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kirklott
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Posted: July 17 2005 at 16:00 |
Thank you for this thread!
imho, The Remembering is the best track on Topo, chronically underrated. I like the second half in particular, and the ending is just pure transcendental magic.
Squire digs it, and Anderson wants to play it live soon.
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kirklott
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Posted: July 17 2005 at 16:01 |
Tommy wrote:
The Remembering is my favourite track on this album. I hope one day they revive it live!
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Jon wants to play it live. Now if he can just overcome a veto by Rick...
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kirklott
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Posted: July 17 2005 at 16:01 |
chopper wrote:
I also love "The Remembering", particularly the middle "don the cap"/"Relayer" bit and the closing section which is one of Yes' finest moments IMO. |
Couldn't have said it better myself...
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kirklott
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Posted: July 17 2005 at 16:02 |
Easy Livin wrote:
If they'd cut out the first 10 minutes of "The ancient" I'd agree with you 100% Beter.
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Agreed. The first 10 minutes are pretty tough on the ears.
Edited by kirklott
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Logos
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Posted: July 17 2005 at 18:20 |
I love all of the four movements. Easily one of top 5 greatest progrock records!!
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Maike
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 19:54 |
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I just love when they sing ... Nous sommes du soleil, we love when we
play - it sounds so sweet - that moment steals the album for me.
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Rust
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Posted: February 17 2006 at 17:57 |
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God knows how much I love The Remembering. This song is absolutely beautiful. My favorite parts of the song have to be during the section where Jon sings, "Alternate View!". Such a beautiful rising climax to a song that starts more mellow and "meditation" like. I think the reprising of choruses, melodies, and lyrics are so perfect, no other song can match it.
The song is my favorite, closely followed by The Revealing Science of God.
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I love The Remembering and The Ancient
