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    Posted: July 25 2012 at 19:05
I like both equally. I fully enjoy good instrumental songs, just as much as good a capella songs.
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BassoonAng Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2012 at 23:41
Originally posted by Dellinger

that's why sometimes Yes's lyrics don't make sense, because Anderson sometimes chooses the words for how they sound together, more than by their meaning.


Interesting.  I see that could very well be the case.

In any event, most people seem to want to believe that music is more important than lyrics.  And I think they should.  Vocals are an interesting instrument because everyone expects two roles: lyrics and music.  Music is the larger part of every song ever made and I believe we're all so drawn to it because its interpretations are limitless.  The purpose is to  express the emotions of the performer/composer, but the emotion we infer as the audience doesn't always match that of said performer/composer.  That's the beauty of it.  From any single piece of music performed, we can infer a plethora of emotions.  And what is tenfold as interesting upon that is the fact that we link emotions with experiences.  Any one emotion can be linked to an impressive number of past experiences.  Finally, consider this: all of us lead different lives and have been through different experiences.  You can relive a number of past experiences, even subconsciously, through said emotions.  Lyrics can bring songs together and bring a number of interpretations, but nowhere near the value that music brings.  Don't forget, vocals are half lyrics, half music.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 18:37
Indeed, in principle, I find music more important to lyrics... if I wanted just "lyrics" I would be reading a book. However, good lyrics certainly add to the experience. Bad lyrics can make it a bit uncomfortable. But there are certain lyrics that would utterly ruin a song to me, if they talk about really nasty things as if they were the right thing to do.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BassoonAng Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2012 at 01:25
Originally posted by Dellinger

Indeed, in principle, I find music more important to lyrics... if I wanted just "lyrics" I would be reading a book. However, good lyrics certainly add to the experience. Bad lyrics can make it a bit uncomfortable. But there are certain lyrics that would utterly ruin a song to me, if they talk about really nasty things as if they were the right thing to do.


Good points.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Zargasheth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2012 at 22:06
 I really don't care at all about lyrics, unless they're fantastically clever or witty in some way. Usually, I prefer instrumental music, because I find lyrics distracting.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote napoca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2012 at 08:37

Lyrics? I've been listened to prog for more than 25 years and didn't understand a word. Now I understand but that doesn't make a huge diference LOL.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2012 at 00:12
well if we observe the potential connection between music and lyrics, which is to say a themeology, lyrics can play an essential part of a composition; a good marriage of both must be a reflection of the tone or story involved which is an accomplishment creatively and technically

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Post Options Post Options   Quote bensommer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2012 at 19:01
Cocteau Twins produced some of the most dreamy, moving (kinda proggish?) music, and Elisabeth Fraser never sang a word of English...or any language for that matter. It was all tongue-speak - some fascinating and beautiful non-language she made up.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote theadolescentprogger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2012 at 18:42
Melodies? Anyone? I think (in Progressive music): The Music, then the Melodies & then the lyrics. In Prog, you have an advantage as a lyricist as you can write lyrics that don't really have to make any sense, but sound cool.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2012 at 21:48
^ What are you talking about, dude? Melodies are a part of music.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote stravbartok9 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2012 at 23:32
Originally posted by clarkpegasus4001

Originally posted by caretaker

Personally, I am interested in the lyrics but they aren't crucial to my enjoyment of the music. As long as they are performed well and complement the music.



My sentiments exactly
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote theadolescentprogger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 15:48
Actually, yes. Sorry, should've recognized that.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Terra Australis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2012 at 17:51
I like good lyrics but you can have beautiful music with rubbish lyrics.
E.g. I love the genesis song  Aisle Of Plenty  and was amazed after hearing it to discover Peter Gabriel was singing a shopping list. It sounds like a love song.


Edited by Terra Australis - August 14 2012 at 18:46
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2012 at 18:08
Originally posted by Terra Australis

I like good lyrics but you can have beautiful music with rubbish lyrics.
E.g. I love the genesis song  Aisle Of Plenty  and was amazed water hearing it to discover Peter Gabriel was singing a shopping list. It sounds like a love song.
 
Actually, almost all of "Aisle of Plenty" has to do with shopping and supermarkets. The lyrics:
 
"I don't belong here," said old Tessa out loud.

"Easy, love, there's the Safe Way Home."

- thankful for her Fine Fair discount,

Tess Co-operates 

Still alone in o-hell-o 

- see the deadly nightshade grow

You'll find Safeway, Home Store, Fine Fare, Tesco and Co-op - all names of supermarket chains at the time Gabriel wrote the song. Even Tessa (Tess) was the name of the wife of the man who founded Tesco.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Terra Australis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2012 at 18:48
Exactly. While good lyrics enhance the track sometimes it doesn't matter what is being sung. It's a beautiful piece of music. Love the guitar singing and mellotron.
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Can't be bothered to check if I already answered to this thread
 
I'm generally more of an instrumental music fan, but I love a good set of lyrics  (TAAB is probably my fave), especially if not interpreted too much as a song format (chorus-verse X3 with a 10 second solo between the 2nd and 3rd  merry-go-round)...
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mostever Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2012 at 21:18
I am glad that English is my first language, I have the unfair privilege of most works being in my language... unless they're older than c. 1900. I love lyrics and music equally to actually answer the question however.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ambient Hurricanes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2012 at 23:01
For those who think that lyrics don't matter: would you see this song differently if you couldn't understand the words?




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^ haven't seen that in awhile, very funny

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