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    Posted: May 08 2011 at 06:22

The Doors for me

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Post Options Post Options   Quote harmonium.ro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2011 at 06:23
Same here. But it would have been a bit tougher if you put After Dining At Baxter's instead of Surrealistic Pillow. 
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The Doors. Although I prefer Strange Days. In regards to Surrealistic Pillow, the two best songs on that album "Somebody to Love" and "White Rabbit" were written and performed by Grace Slick for her previous band, Great Society.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Prog Geo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2011 at 07:10
The doors!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote memowakeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2011 at 18:44
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2011 at 23:56
The Doors.  I think "Surrealistic Pillow" is overrated.
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I only 'like' JA, anyway. So, Doors again.
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I'll go with the 'loosers' this time. While very much appriciate the Doors debute album, 'surrealistic pillow' is great in my opinion, not just because of 'surealistic pillow' (and 'somebody to love'). I love every song in this album, each song is a jem. ('today', ' Comin' Back To Me ' to name just two). aslo their vocal harmonies are amazing, and the playing is moveing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fox On The Rocks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2012 at 21:14
The Doors's debut is probably my favourite Non-Prog album ever. Well, that, along with Sgt.Pepper and Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness.
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Surrealistic Pillow is overrated. ABAB is a clearly superior album and I've never really understood why SP has the reputation it does.
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I always thought that the biggest issue with JA was that too many people wanted to do their own thing, and the band having serious issues between a couple of folks ... was not fun, and I believe it took away from the totality of the music. But then you get Caroline and Ride the Tiger and you go ... wtf ... ???
 
The Doors were much more focused on the artistic side of the music and putting it together as a "mind movie", where as JA was more conventional musically, which in a way is not as good as the other method. It does help, that unlike the JA folks, the folks in The Doors were at a major institution and were involved in film ... and no one here will disagree as to the visual nature of The Doors ... which JA did not have but for a couple of pieces.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2012 at 16:40
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks

The Doors's debut is probably my favourite Non-Prog album ever.
Reading about the album, how it was created, how many elements of different music styles (rock, Latin, raga, cabaret, classical, jazz) the Doors incorporated into their songs, how they "married" music and literature/poetry I realise it's one of the proggiest albums everWink
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2012 at 17:10
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Originally posted by NotAProghead

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks

The Doors's debut is probably my favourite Non-Prog album ever.
Reading about the album, how it was created, how many elements of different music styles (rock, Latin, raga, cabaret, classical, jazz) the Doors incorporated into their songs, how they "married" music and literature/poetry I realise it's one of the proggiest albums everWink


I agree, a progressive album indeed
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bosh66 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2012 at 03:04
Love 'em both. Pillow for me though. Only JA album I own so I can't say it's their best, but I love the sound of that album.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fox On The Rocks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2012 at 22:47
Originally posted by NotAProghead

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks

The Doors's debut is probably my favourite Non-Prog album ever.
Reading about the album, how it was created, how many elements of different music styles (rock, Latin, raga, cabaret, classical, jazz) the Doors incorporated into their songs, how they "married" music and literature/poetry I realise it's one of the proggiest albums everWink

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Originally posted by The Dark Elf

The Doors. Although I prefer Strange Days. In regards to Surrealistic Pillow, the two best songs on that album "Somebody to Love" and "White Rabbit" were written and performed by Grace Slick for her previous band, Great Society.
 
ever Heard She Has funny Cars or 3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds??? Much better than Somebody to love
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2012 at 12:29
Originally posted by Sean Trane

Originally posted by The Dark Elf

The Doors. Although I prefer Strange Days. In regards to Surrealistic Pillow, the two best songs on that album "Somebody to Love" and "White Rabbit" were written and performed by Grace Slick for her previous band, Great Society.
 
ever Heard She Has funny Cars or 3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds??? Much better than Somebody to love
 
I like Soft Parade myself ... and here's the best part of the trip!  I really thought that was excelent, and although I might read more into this than otherwie, this is the "Steppenwolf" piece (or the Herman Hesse piece)  for the Doors, but I also think that this is too obtuse and crazy for most and the comment about the prayer and then the whip the horse's eye freak people out badly ... but Ozzie's biting a bat is cool! ... go figure as to who is weirder, and off his rocker!


Edited by moshkito - April 06 2012 at 12:34
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Abstrakt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 09:53
I think that Surrealistic Pillow has more good songs on it, but the good ones on The Doors are really good.
Going for Surrealistic Pillow, because it needs more votes!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 10:12
Originally posted by Abstrakt

Going for Surrealistic Pillow, because it needs more votes!

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I say: The Doors' debut. Oh, s$%t, man, 'Crystal Ship', 'Alabama Song', 'Light My Fire' ... I don't remember anything on the Airplane's effort that could beat that.
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